--- Log opened Mon Jul 12 00:00:01 2004 00:00 < courtc> yea will do! 00:00 < leachbj> night all... 00:00 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAA849.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 00:26 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC8B5F30.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:26 < sneakerelph> hey macpod 00:26 < courtc> hey macPod 00:26 < macPod> hey 00:26 < macPod> have you checked the price of a new mini ipod? 00:26 < sneakerelph> ? 00:26 < macPod> 50$ more than if you buy it retail 00:27 < courtc> want an iTuneDB parser? 00:27 < macPod> I presume apple is out of stock now or so 00:27 < macPod> does it work? 00:27 < macPod> :P 00:27 < courtc> ooh yea! 00:27 < macPod> how fast is it? 00:27 < macPod> and sure 00:28 < sneakerelph> hey, macpod, what about a G3 Blue and white with a G4 "Upgrade card" 00:28 < courtc> leachbj did some voodoo... and now it runs like a firetruck.... 00:28 < macPod> do you have a link to the comp 00:28 < macPod> cool 00:28 < sneakerelph> on driver 2 (playstation game) firetrucks are slow 00:28 < macPod> once I get my laptop, I am going to install linux and work on podzilla 00:28 < sneakerelph> i dont have a link to a comp, i was just wondering 00:28 < courtc> check out the beta... 00:28 < macPod> who makes the card? 00:29 < sneakerelph> sonnettech 00:29 < courtc> its got pong alos.. 00:29 < macPod> that's a good name 00:29 < sneakerelph> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5108466731 00:29 < macPod> if you mean sonnet 00:29 < sneakerelph> thats one i might be looking at 00:29 < sneakerelph> yeah 00:29 < sneakerelph> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4601&item=5108532155&rd=1 00:29 < sneakerelph> for the upgrade card 00:30 < macPod> oh no 00:30 < macPod> don't get the card seperately 00:30 < sneakerelph> why? 00:30 < macPod> you will get more for yoru money without the card 00:30 < macPod> you might as well just get a g4 00:30 < sneakerelph> yeah 00:30 < sneakerelph> but g3's are cheap 00:31 < sneakerelph> and i was thinking about getting the card later 00:31 < macPod> nah 00:31 < macPod> the only good time to get an upgrade card is if you get a computer for free 00:31 < macPod> like me and my beige 00:31 < sneakerelph> oh 00:32 < sneakerelph> i dunno 00:32 < sneakerelph> 127 bucks 00:32 < sneakerelph> and 200 for the comp 00:32 < sneakerelph> cheaper than a g4 00:32 < macPod> you are getting no harddrive 00:32 < macPod> and 500 mhz is not that fast 00:32 < sneakerelph> i wasnt sure... it says it has OS X 00:32 < sneakerelph> but how can you have OS X without a hd 00:33 < sneakerelph> so i thought "it must come with an hd!" 00:33 < courtc> cd 00:33 < macPod> yea 00:33 < macPod> and I dunno about that auction 00:33 < macPod> that picture shows a pci g4 upgrade 00:33 < sneakerelph> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14911&item=5107066236&rd=1 00:33 < macPod> and the text of the auction talks about a zif upgrade 00:33 < sneakerelph> also that one looked pretty good 00:33 < sneakerelph> but no OS 00:34 < sneakerelph> i figured i'd pay $50 for panther 00:34 < macPod> well, you can always download that 00:34 < sneakerelph> on ebay 00:34 < macPod> you will have to buy ram for that machine 00:34 < macPod> it only has 64 mb 00:34 < macPod> a 9gb hard drive too 00:34 < courtc> no he cant download that... 00:34 < macPod> :P 00:34 < sneakerelph> i have a 30 gig to put in a machine 00:34 < sneakerelph> thats not an issue 00:34 < macPod> you need a minimum of 128 mb of ram 00:35 < sneakerelph> yea, i have memory too 00:35 < courtc> you cant just add a hd to a laptop... 00:35 < sneakerelph> its not a laptop 00:35 < sneakerelph> g3 blue and white 00:35 < macPod> the hard drive will not be an issue 00:35 < courtc> oh.. 00:35 < macPod> :D 00:36 < sneakerelph> 450 MHz 00:36 < macPod> so 50 mhz faster than my comp 00:36 < sneakerelph> will that run panther OK? 00:36 < macPod> with expandability 00:36 < macPod> panther works fine on my comp 00:36 < macPod> I don't play games 00:36 < courtc> i other words its an antique ;) 00:36 < sneakerelph> nah, me neither 00:36 < macPod> and it is a bit sluggish with photoshop 00:36 < sneakerelph> i have a Sony VAIO to do that 00:36 < sneakerelph> again... gimp on the vaio 00:37 < sneakerelph> i just want a mac so i can use Xcode and cocoa 00:37 < sneakerelph> but not too sluggish 00:37 < sneakerelph> i've used OS X 10.1 on an iMac (older slot loading) 00:37 < sneakerelph> it wasnt too slow 00:37 < courtc> have you looked around for cocoa on x86? 00:37 < macPod> I have a slot loader 00:38 < macPod> cocoa is not on x86 00:38 < courtc> a port... 00:38 < macPod> cocoa are frameworks for mac os x and the gui portion 00:38 < sneakerelph> yup 00:38 < macPod> now... 00:38 < courtc> so to speak.. 00:38 < sneakerelph> i wouldnt want to mess with it on x86 00:38 < macPod> gnustep is all the internal stuff such as strings, writing to files etc 00:38 < macPod> I want this ported to the iPod 00:39 < sneakerelph> gnustep? 00:39 < sneakerelph> does a G3 rune Mac OS 7.5.3? 00:40 < sneakerelph> i have an LC II 00:40 < sneakerelph> a.k.a performa 400 00:40 < macPod> I dunno 00:40 < macPod> not sure why you would want to 00:40 < sneakerelph> just wondering 00:40 < sneakerelph> in case i dont get OS X right away 00:40 < sneakerelph> if i buy that 450 mhz one 00:40 < courtc> i dont think xcode and cocoa are justafiable reasons to buy a mac 00:41 < sneakerelph> those arent the only reasons 00:41 < sneakerelph> i just want a mac 00:41 < sneakerelph> is that a problem? 00:41 < courtc> if its just because you want one thats good... 00:41 < macPod> :P 00:41 < courtc> i want one also... 00:41 < sneakerelph> i've fallen into the marketing ploy 00:41 < sneakerelph> i've been sold on OS X for years 00:41 < macPod> it is good 00:42 < sneakerelph> yes 00:42 < sneakerelph> i've used it.... so simple 00:42 < sneakerelph> yet so complex 00:42 < sneakerelph> everything just... works 00:42 < sneakerelph> unlike windows! 00:42 < sneakerelph> and linux... although i do like linux, it is more involved than windows or OS X 00:43 < sneakerelph> but in windows you cant get more involved if you want to 00:43 < sneakerelph> in OS X, you can 00:43 < sneakerelph> if you want 00:43 < sneakerelph> otherwise... it still just works 00:43 < courtc> yea you can in windows... 00:44 < sneakerelph> not as much 00:44 < courtc> very much so... 00:44 < sneakerelph> whatever 00:44 < sneakerelph> how much crap do i need to download? 00:44 < sneakerelph> and risk getting virus's 00:44 < sneakerelph> and spyware 00:44 < sneakerelph> why do people like windows again? 00:44 < macPod> what? 00:44 < courtc> none 00:44 < macPod> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51035&item=5107983792&rd=1 00:45 < macPod> I need that 00:45 < courtc> i dont like windows... 00:45 < sneakerelph> i didnt say you did 00:45 < sneakerelph> i was just wondering why so many people do 00:46 < courtc> not many do i don't think... 00:46 < courtc> they are just force into using it... 00:47 < sneakerelph> i wouldnt be so sure about it 00:47 < sneakerelph> heh... 350 bucks macpod 00:47 < sneakerelph> quite spensive 00:47 < macPod> yea... 00:48 < macPod> but, I got the computer for free 00:48 < sneakerelph> well 00:48 < sneakerelph> if that be the case 00:48 < sneakerelph> its still alot of money 00:48 < macPod> and you tell me where you can find a 1ghz g4 for that price 00:48 < sneakerelph> true.. true... 00:49 < courtc> most people don't even know about the alternetives... or at least dont know enough 00:49 < sneakerelph> well 00:49 < macPod> are you talking about the alternatives that involve sleeping pills and alcohol? 00:49 < sneakerelph> wft? 00:49 < sneakerelph> wtf? 00:49 < macPod> :P 00:49 < courtc> no, sharp knives and plastic bags... 00:50 < sneakerelph> crap... i dont have a USB keyboard 00:50 < sneakerelph> my mouse is though 00:50 < courtc> cheap.... 00:50 < sneakerelph> yes 00:50 < courtc> 12 bucks or so... retail 00:50 < sneakerelph> but i dont have much money at all 00:51 < sneakerelph> especially after a buy a $200 computer 00:51 < sneakerelph> now i know thats cheap 00:51 < sneakerelph> but remember how old i am 00:51 < sneakerelph> and how steady income is 00:51 < courtc> if you are thinking of buying a powerbook.... 00:51 < sneakerelph> im not anymore 00:51 < courtc> you might need to mow a few more lawns... 00:51 < courtc> ;) 00:51 < sneakerelph> just got hit with a realty check 00:51 < sneakerelph> lol 00:51 < sneakerelph> good idea 00:54 < sneakerelph> macpod... do you use safari 00:54 < macPod> yea 00:54 < sneakerelph> is it better than firefox? 00:54 < courtc> no... 00:54 < sneakerelph> firefox is pretty sweet 00:54 < macPod> yea it is 00:54 < sneakerelph> tabbed browsing?' 00:55 < macPod> I've used both 00:55 < courtc> so have i... 00:55 < macPod> safari is better on mac 00:55 < courtc> maybe on mac... 00:55 < sneakerelph> yes... but does it have tabbed browsing? 00:55 < macPod> yea 00:55 < macPod> it has tab browsing 00:55 < sneakerelph> ok 00:55 < macPod> I have a pc friend who uses firefox on his pc's and safari on his mac 00:55 < courtc> but safari on mac vs firefox on linux... firefox wins.. sorry 00:56 < macPod> he just got the mac about 2 months ago 00:56 < macPod> and he says he greatly prefers safari 00:56 < macPod> and the pac 00:56 < macPod> *mac 00:56 < sneakerelph> ah 00:56 < macPod> I disagree courtc 00:56 < sneakerelph> i havent used safari enough to make a jugment 00:56 < sneakerelph> is why i was asking you! 00:57 < macPod> I've used both, use safari on a mac at home, and at work/school I use linux and firefox 00:57 < courtc> safari is nice, but firefox has a better parsing engine... 00:57 < courtc> thats what i care about... 00:57 < macPod> how can you compare that? 00:58 < macPod> safari runs faster on a mac than firefox 00:58 < courtc> since im very particular about my html and css code.... 00:58 < courtc> and IE blows my left nut.... 00:58 < sneakerelph> IE Sucks 00:58 < macPod> yea 00:58 < sneakerelph> everyone knows that 00:59 < courtc> you know whats worse than IE? 00:59 < macPod> aol 00:59 < courtc> IE5 on a mac.... 00:59 < courtc> aol uses IE 00:59 < sneakerelph> aol sucks too 00:59 < macPod> not on mac os x 00:59 < macPod> it uses some mozilla thing 00:59 < sneakerelph> i've used it before 00:59 < sneakerelph> on mac 00:59 < macPod> which makes sense because aol developed that a bit 00:59 < sneakerelph> it is better than PC 01:00 < sneakerelph> yup 01:00 < courtc> IE5/mac has to be the worst ever 01:00 < macPod> oh it is 01:00 < macPod> but not as bad as aol's browser 01:00 < sneakerelph> aol on PC is IE 01:00 < macPod> I have to quit and relaunce it every now and then because it has memory leaks 01:00 < sneakerelph> only worse 01:01 < courtc> some of the worst hacks for HTML/CSS are for IE5/mac 01:01 < macPod> aol is the only app other than M$ office that I have to do that with 01:01 < macPod> courtc, hacks? 01:01 < sneakerelph> heh 01:01 < courtc> yea css hacks... 01:01 < macPod> as in to ensure ti works properly? or to harm the computer? 01:01 < courtc> make it work at all... 01:01 < macPod> :P 01:02 < macPod> I believe that 01:02 < courtc> boo harm.... 01:02 < macPod> it does not follow w3c standards 01:02 < courtc> not even close... 01:02 < macPod> it makes it's own 01:02 < courtc> but my sites do... 01:02 < courtc> lol 01:05 < sneakerelph> lol 01:05 < sneakerelph> time to leave 01:05 < sneakerelph> later 01:05 -!- sneakerelph [~SneakerEl@ACC21DBF.ipt.aol.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:22 -!- guest12345 [~guest1234@d150-71-205.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:22 < guest12345> hi 01:23 < guest12345> im installing on Mac OS X and at the kernel installation part, when i try to extract the apple os from the backup image, i always get the message "cannot execute binary file" in the terminal 01:23 < guest12345> anyone know what to do? 01:25 < guest12345> anyone at ALL? 01:25 < courtc> i think thats an x86 exec, dunno, macPod? 01:26 < guest12345> just a sec then 01:27 -!- sneakerelph [~SneakerEl@ACC21DBF.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:27 < guest12345> so what exactly should i try to do? 01:27 < courtc> macPod has a mac OSX installer... 01:27 < guest12345> i no very little unix 01:27 < sneakerelph> hey macpod, would PC SDRAM memory work in a b&w G3? 01:27 < courtc> you can find it on the forums... 01:27 < guest12345> kk 01:31 -!- guest12345 [~guest1234@d150-71-205.home.cgocable.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 01:32 -!- guest12345 [~guest1234@d150-71-205.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:32 < guest12345> ok i got the installer made by macpod 01:33 < guest12345> but i always get the error -> could not read firmware version 01:33 < courtc> ok now use it ;) 01:34 < courtc> dunno i'm not a mac user.... but macPod is, arnt you macPod? macPod macPod macPod 01:34 < guest12345> macPod, can u help? 01:34 < guest12345> yes i no he is ive seen his coding and framework 01:35 < macPod> brb 01:35 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC8B5F30.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 01:35 < guest12345> its very nice, like abstract art 01:35 < courtc> lol 01:35 < guest12345> does he usually not talk? 01:35 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has joined #ipodlinux 01:35 < courtc> he does.. 01:35 < courtc> word WariniMAC 01:35 < guest12345> i hope he comes back i need help 01:35 < WariniMAC> hi courtc 01:35 < WariniMAC> how are u doing 01:36 -!- Ubel [~Ubel@ini1-p197.du.simnet.is] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:36 < courtc> superb 01:36 < WariniMAC> why that good 01:36 < courtc> why not? 01:36 -!- KuRcZ [~KuRcZ@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:36 < WariniMAC> o, don't know 01:36 < WariniMAC> hey can I ask u something 01:36 < courtc> no ;) 01:37 < sneakerelph> hey, warinimac 01:37 < WariniMAC> hey 01:37 < WariniMAC> what is agetty? 01:37 < sneakerelph> do you know if PC SDRAM (not ddr) would work in a b&w G3? 01:37 < WariniMAC> I think yes 01:37 < sneakerelph> ok 01:37 < WariniMAC> it would work, what clock speed (the memory 01:38 < sneakerelph> i think the stuff i have is PC133? 01:38 < guest12345> CAN NO ONE HERE HELP? 01:38 < WariniMAC> mmmm I think it can work, if not, then just plug it out, no prob of burning it 01:38 < courtc> chil guest12345 01:39 < WariniMAC> what's new in the new PODZILLA????? 01:39 < guest12345> but ive been trying for days 01:39 < sneakerelph> i might be buying a G3, is why im asking 01:39 < courtc> pong itunes parser... 01:39 < guest12345> ? 01:39 < guest12345> whats that 01:39 < sneakerelph> pong? of itunes parser? 01:40 < courtc> itunedb parser... 01:40 < guest12345> oic 01:40 < courtc> and pog the game 01:40 < courtc> pong* 01:40 < guest12345> r we the only 3 people ALIVE on here? 01:41 < guest12345> is everyone else in a coma or what? 01:41 < courtc> no you are just very antsy... 01:41 < guest12345> and everyone else illiterate 01:41 < guest12345> do u guys got linux ipod? 01:42 < sneakerelph> whatever 01:42 < guest12345> i was just asking 01:42 < sneakerelph> no, we just enjoy coming into IRC 01:42 < sneakerelph> see what people are doing 01:42 < guest12345> like me? 01:42 < sneakerelph> sure 01:42 < guest12345> aww i feel so special! ;) 01:43 < sneakerelph> of course we have ipodlinux.. 01:43 < guest12345> really? y dont i believe u? 01:43 < sneakerelph> hey, believe what you want 01:43 < guest12345> is there any other OSes u can have on ipod? 01:43 < sneakerelph> im not losing sleep over it ;-) 01:44 < KuRcZ> no 01:44 < KuRcZ> well 01:44 < KuRcZ> yes 01:44 < KuRcZ> mac 01:44 < KuRcZ> :D 01:44 < guest12345> lol but thats not i ment 01:44 < sneakerelph> in theory, you can boot OS X from it on your comp 01:45 < guest12345> ya just like an external drive 01:45 < WariniMAC> hey agetty , hdparm , it-src.tgz , Tremor_lowmem_svn.ta..> , libc.a , libpthread.a , linker_script_stuff.tgz , ptfork.diff , ptk-x11-0.1.tar.gz , queue.tar.gz , please I wanna know what the @$#$@@#$@#T are those things 01:45 < guest12345> but i ment to run on the ipod with its screen and everything 01:45 < sneakerelph> oh 01:45 < sneakerelph> not that i know of 01:46 < WariniMAC> .... 01:46 < guest12345> wow macpod should help me :( 01:47 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC8B5F30.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:47 < WariniMAC> I have linux on my mac os x ipod 01:47 < macPod> warin, did youuse my program? 01:48 < sneakerelph> warinimac... also, would a PC DVD Drive work on said G3 mac? 01:48 < macPod> I'm not sure if you realize, this, but I made that program because I had to helpyou 01:48 < WariniMAC> no, I installed manually 01:48 < macPod> sneakerelph, yes it will 01:48 < macPod> I got the upgrade card :) 01:48 < sneakerelph> ok cool 01:48 < sneakerelph> awesome 01:48 < sneakerelph> *claps for macpod* 01:48 < macPod> :D 01:48 < WariniMAC> hey macpod, can I ask u something 01:49 < sneakerelph> i need to get one when i buy my G3 01:49 < courtc> guest12345, need help with your prog macPod 01:49 < macPod> yea? 01:49 < guest12345> MACPOD: I ALWAYS GET THE ERROR FROM UR SOFTWARE -> could not read firmware version 01:49 < sneakerelph> i buy the G3 01:49 < macPod> woao, careful with those caps there guest12345 01:49 < guest12345> lol k 01:49 < macPod> :P, what firmware version do you have on your ipod? 01:50 < guest12345> let me check 01:50 < guest12345> in system profiler it says 1.51 01:50 < WariniMAC> guest12345: have u tryed backuping the info and make a factory reset (with the latest firmware version) 01:50 < macPod> do you have a first, second, or third gen ipod? 01:51 < WariniMAC> second I think it is 01:51 < guest12345> 3rd, and i think this is the latest 01:51 < guest12345> isnt it? 01:51 < macPod> nope 01:51 < macPod> upgrade to firmware version 2.1 is the lates 01:51 < WariniMAC> no 01:51 < guest12345> oh really so i should do a reset then 01:51 < macPod> well hold on 01:51 < guest12345> well on my ipod it says version 2.2 in the about menu 01:52 < WariniMAC> I have 2.2 01:52 < macPod> yea, that is the latest 01:52 < WariniMAC> 1.x is for 1 and 2 gen 01:52 < macPod> guest12345, go ahead and open up a terminal 01:52 < WariniMAC> 2.x it's for 3rd 01:52 < guest12345> k 01:52 < WariniMAC> I think 01:52 < macPod> type cd 01:53 < macPod> then hit the spacebar 01:53 < guest12345> k 01:53 < macPod> then drag your ipod iver the terminal window and let go 01:53 < courtc> type echo "macPod is SUPER" 01:53 < macPod> no 01:53 < guest12345> so what now? 01:54 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC8B5F30.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:54 < courtc> ROFL 01:54 < guest12345> well that doesnt help 01:54 < WariniMAC> what happened with macpod 01:54 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC8B5F30.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:54 < WariniMAC> o there u are 01:54 < macPod> aol sucks... 01:55 < macPod> guest12345 how competent with the terminal are you? 01:55 < guest12345> not very good, but i can follow all directions to the smallest detail, does that help? 01:55 < WariniMAC> macpod it's true that ichat can video audio chat with aim because I have tryed with no succes 01:55 < macPod> yup 01:55 < guest12345> ok so i dragged ipod after cd 01:55 < sneakerelph> aim is supposed to in the normal client too 01:56 < macPod> WariniMAC, I have a 56k, I cannot do that stuff 01:56 < WariniMAC> o ok 01:56 < macPod> guest12345, go ahead and hit enter 01:56 < macPod> now type ls 01:56 < guest12345> now it says /Volumes/Brandon's iPod brandon$ 01:56 < macPod> and then hit enter 01:56 < guest12345> again? 01:56 < macPod> alright good 01:56 < guest12345> kk 01:57 < macPod> type 'cd iPod_Control 01:57 < macPod> without that ' mark 01:57 < guest12345> ok, u no i can browse for it too, i show the hidden files in the finder 01:58 < WariniMAC> no, manually 01:58 < WariniMAC> sorry not to u 01:58 < macPod> oh in that case go into the Device file in the iPod_control folder 01:58 < guest12345> ok there are 3 files there 01:59 < macPod> three? what are their names? 01:59 < guest12345> _show_voltage [that was a different hack] sysinfo and preferences 01:59 < guest12345> i can delete the voltage hack 02:00 < macPod> no wait, you got me interested in that one :) 02:00 < macPod> what does the voltage one do? 02:00 < guest12345> it shows, instead of the battery meter a number from 1 - 500 02:00 < guest12345> 500 being fully charged 02:00 < macPod> reall? 02:00 < guest12345> ya 02:00 < courtc> not very acurate as i remember... 02:00 < guest12345> it isnt really 02:00 < macPod> if you find the link for that I woudl be interested in it 02:00 < guest12345> i was gonna delete it 02:01 < macPod> don't bother 02:01 < guest12345> i would be happy too if u just finish up w/e we were doing 02:01 < macPod> open up the file called SysInfo 02:01 < macPod> in textedit 02:01 < guest12345> k 02:01 < guest12345> ok? 02:01 < macPod> either send me the file, or paste the contents here 02:02 < guest12345> would u like to chat over ichat? 02:02 < macPod> not really but I can 02:02 < guest12345> it might be easier if u want 02:02 < macPod> what is your im? 02:02 < guest12345> wangman25@mac.com 02:03 < guest12345> oh no now everyone is gonna want to chat with me ! LOL j/k :D 02:03 < sneakerelph> of course 02:03 < macPod> hey, better you than me :P 02:04 < guest12345> lol did u add me? 02:04 < sneakerelph> your a celebrity ;-) 02:04 < guest12345> yup i am 02:04 < macPod> umm it says you are not signed on 02:04 < guest12345> u must have typed it wrong everyone does 02:05 < macPod> nah, didn't add the @mac.com 02:05 -!- guest12345 [~guest1234@d150-71-205.home.cgocable.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:06 -!- sneakerelph [~SneakerEl@ACC21DBF.ipt.aol.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 02:07 < WariniMAC> let me see 02:14 < WariniMAC> what was the ls -"" to know if it is an exec 02:15 < WariniMAC> ????? 02:15 -!- KuRcZ [~KuRcZ@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.8.0 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 02:15 -!- KuRcZ [~KuRcZ@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:15 -!- KuRcZ [~KuRcZ@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.8.0 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 02:25 -!- elph [~SneakerEl@ACC235DA.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:25 < elph> dang... my nick was taken again 02:25 < elph> i think i dont disconnect from freenode when i sign off 02:26 < WariniMAC> does anyone know how can I get the info of a file to know if it's an exec 02:26 < elph> so it thinks im still on 02:26 < WariniMAC> under unix 02:26 < WariniMAC> chmod +x /Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla this is to make it exec 02:26 < WariniMAC> but to know if it's exe 02:26 < WariniMAC> c 02:27 < elph> ls -a i think 02:27 < elph> gives you that kind of stuff 02:27 < elph> ./it 02:27 < elph> see what happens 02:27 < elph> if its not exec, it wont exec 02:27 < elph> if it is 02:27 < elph> then it will 02:30 < elph> is there any way to hook a PS/2 keyboard into a mac? 02:31 < courtc> you can use file 02:31 < elph> ? 02:31 < courtc> so file exec and it'll tell you what it is 02:33 < courtc> ps2 to usb adapter... 02:34 < elph> where though... 02:34 < courtc> they are like 20 bucks... 02:34 < courtc> a keyboard would be cheaper 02:34 < elph> i'll buy a full keyboard 02:34 < elph> yeah 02:37 < elph> wonder how much an apple keyboard costs on ebay 02:38 < courtc> 1 way to find out 02:38 < elph> yup 02:39 < courtc> 2.99 02:39 < elph> eh? 02:41 < courtc> buy iot now for 2.99 02:41 < elph> where? what did you search for? 02:41 < courtc> APPLE MAC keyboard 02:41 < elph> i cant find it 02:41 < macPod> search for adc keyboard 02:41 < macPod> that is the old connection type 02:42 < macPod> all newage apple keyboards are usb 02:42 < elph> yeah, but i dont think its on Power Mac G3 02:42 < courtc> techamongous 02:42 < courtc> thats the seller.. doenst say much 02:43 < elph> lol 02:43 < macPod> I have a g3 02:43 < elph> oh yea 02:43 < macPod> the beige was the last g3 to ahve adc 02:43 < macPod> all other g3's and above had usb 02:43 < elph> but im going for B&W 02:43 < macPod> that has usb 02:43 < elph> i dont have a USB keybaord though 02:43 < WariniMAC> what is the command to know the x, well if a file is exec or not 02:44 < WariniMAC> macpod 02:44 < WariniMAC> ????? 02:44 < courtc> file 02:44 < macPod> what do you need it for? 02:44 < elph> on apple.com a keyboard by itself is 50 bucks 02:44 < macPod> yea, a bluetooth one 02:44 < courtc> .99 usb/ps/2 adapter 02:45 < elph> oh, thats the bluetooth one? 02:45 < courtc> use file! 02:45 < WariniMAC> nono, it was a code that gave me somethin lice -xc -xcc -xxc 02:45 < courtc> file file 02:46 < courtc> but file works! 02:46 < WariniMAC> no, becuase it talls me my file is exec but it isn't 02:47 < courtc> what? you lie ;) 02:47 < WariniMAC> it's macpod there 02:47 < WariniMAC> ?????? 02:48 < WariniMAC> chmod +x /Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla before this mac pod told me to see if it's an exe with a command I can't remmember 02:48 < elph> hey! awesome! i'll buy an adapter 02:49 < courtc> you know man ls will tell you all about ls 02:49 < WariniMAC> i know 02:50 < elph> shipping is 6 bucks though 02:50 < WariniMAC> Alfredo-Guarinis-Computer:~ alfredoguarini$ ls -a /Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla/Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla 02:50 < WariniMAC> this happens 02:50 < WariniMAC> Alfredo-Guarinis-Computer:~ alfredoguarini$ ls -a /Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla =====> /Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla 02:50 < courtc> ls -l 02:50 < courtc> *sigh 02:51 < WariniMAC> oooooooooooooooo thanks dude 02:51 < WariniMAC> it;s to xhq something I'm adding to my ipod 02:51 < courtc> uhhuh.. you wanted to know the permissions... 02:52 < courtc> maybe i should start packing for my tirp.... 02:52 < elph> where u going? 02:52 < WariniMAC> how can i install games like the chess one 02:52 < courtc> argentina 02:52 < elph> cool 02:52 < elph> never been 02:52 < WariniMAC> courtc i live in chile 02:53 < courtc> um.. cool 02:53 < elph> usa 02:53 < courtc> maybe i'll visit.... since it is close and all... 02:53 < WariniMAC> how can i install games like the chess one??????? 02:56 < courtc> chess needs a nano-X server 02:56 < elph> gotta go 02:56 -!- elph [~SneakerEl@ACC235DA.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)"] 02:57 < WariniMAC> is there any game I can install on my ipod 02:57 < WariniMAC> ???? 02:58 < macPod> doom 02:58 < WariniMAC> and also what is the visual interfase that ipodlinux uses 02:58 < courtc> hah 02:59 < WariniMAC> ???? 02:59 < courtc> just get the latest podzilla beta it has all you want.... make sure to RTFM and the forum before you ask a q 02:59 < macPod> ????? 03:00 < courtc> ?????? 03:00 < WariniMAC> I just wanna know what things I can do with the ipodlinux, like I know I can open txt and jpg 03:01 < courtc> all documented on the forum... 03:01 < WariniMAC> ok 03:05 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-228.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:10 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-228.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:17 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 03:17 -!- normalperson [normalpers@user-0can02j.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 03:18 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has joined #ipodlinux 03:18 -!- normalperson [normalpers@user-0can02j.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:18 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has quit ["Quit"] 03:26 < macPod> finally 03:26 < macPod> :P 03:29 < macPod> lol leach changed the speed courtc? 03:29 < macPod> for pong? 03:30 < macPod> hey 03:31 < macPod> what is the difference between the two uclinux binaries 03:32 < courtc> yea leachbj thought it was too fast 03:32 < courtc> which ones? 03:33 < macPod> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod1-1.tar.gz 03:33 < macPod> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/uclinux-2.4.24-ipod1.tar.gz 03:33 < macPod> what are the changes? 03:33 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has joined #ipodlinux 03:33 < macPod> I hear there was a bug fix for hfs 03:33 < courtc> yea... 03:33 < courtc> i think thats all 03:33 < WariniMAC> does podzilla play mp3 now or still doesn't 03:34 < courtc> podzilla executes mp3example to play mp3s 03:35 < courtc> i stll have uclinux-2.4.24-ipod0 03:35 < courtc> because no cahnges have been useful for my ipod 03:36 < courtc> like audio recording.. 03:38 < WariniMAC> what do i have to do to run tuxchess or 4wins 03:38 < courtc> a nano-X server 03:38 < WariniMAC> what is a nano-x server 03:39 < courtc> *sigh... its kinda like X for the ipod 03:39 < WariniMAC> what do I have to do to make it work 03:39 < courtc> do you have a binary? 03:40 < WariniMAC> I have tuxchess.zip 03:41 < courtc> you need a nano-X binary built for the ipod with an arm-elf toolchain 03:41 < courtc> and a feasable way to start it up... 03:42 < WariniMAC> I don't know what the #$!$@ are u talking about 03:42 < WariniMAC> why then pong and othello and bluecube works 03:42 < courtc> perhaps you shouldnt attempt compiling a nano-X binary then 03:43 < courtc> because they are built into podzilla 03:44 < WariniMAC> and why they don't use nano-x, oooooo there is no whay to execute something from podzilla, something like that???? 03:45 < courtc> uhh,, with podzilla the nano-X server is built in.... 03:47 < courtc> you would have to close podzilla then start a nano-X server then start chess... i hear it doesnt work too well though.. people are getting black screens.. and the controlling isnt proper for the ipod... 03:47 -!- macPod2 [~One800jef@AC991090.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:47 < macPod2> damn aol 03:48 < macPod2> omg the parser takes foreverrrr 03:48 < courtc> no it doesnt... 03:48 < WariniMAC> is there any way to make software that runs under podzilla, like going to file browse and open an exec 03:48 < courtc> like 10 seconds max 03:48 < macPod2> not here 03:48 < courtc> does it work? 03:48 < macPod2> it just says Loading... 03:49 < macPod2> I am using the newest podzilla 03:49 < macPod2> not 2.6 03:49 < courtc> did you try moving the scroll wheel? 03:49 < macPod2> nothing 03:49 < macPod2> they only way I can get out of it is by hitting the menu button 03:49 < WariniMAC> I'm using the new one to 03:49 < courtc> huh perhaps it doesnt work then :( 03:49 < macPod2> yea... bummer 03:49 < macPod2> I don't have the newest kernel 03:50 < WariniMAC> moving the scoll well were 03:50 < courtc> it should though... 03:50 < macPod2> but neither do you so no diference 03:50 < WariniMAC> scroll well works great 03:50 < macPod2> courtc I have aac files 03:50 < macPod2> does that make a difference? I also have some midi's 03:50 < courtc> shouldnt be a problem... 03:50 < courtc> they just wont play... 03:50 < WariniMAC> ???? 03:50 < macPod2> hey 03:51 < macPod2> also the hard drive is not spinning 03:51 < WariniMAC> do i need mp3example.diff 03:51 < courtc> huh.. 03:51 < courtc> WariniMAC, no 03:51 < WariniMAC> courtc I have just installed the new podzilla I have no bugs 03:52 < courtc> beta stuff is beta strictly... 03:52 < macPod2> yea 03:52 < macPod2> that freeze is something to note 03:52 < courtc> WariniMAC, you have a hfs+ ipod? 03:52 < macPod2> courtc does it constantly acess the disk or does your loader read in the file and then parse it? 03:52 < courtc> read then parse 03:52 < WariniMAC> I have a journaled 03:53 < macPod2> alright, so it was ok that the disk was not running 03:53 < courtc> what version? 03:53 < courtc> yea 03:53 < WariniMAC> what is hfs+ 03:53 < courtc> reather what gen and what made your iTunesDB? 03:53 < macPod2> reather? 03:53 < courtc> hfs+ = filesystem 03:54 < courtc> rather... whoops 03:54 < macPod2> I have 3rd gen, with 10gb 03:54 < macPod2> pong worked fine 03:54 < courtc> did you use itunes to add your song? 03:54 < courtc> songs* 03:54 < macPod2> yea 03:55 < courtc> WariniMAC, did you? 03:55 < WariniMAC> I have 3 gen 15 gigs, the new one, released this year in mac expo 03:55 < courtc> ok.. how did you add your songs? 03:55 < WariniMAC> I used itunes, but in the apple fw 03:56 < courtc> ok.. 03:56 < macPod2> courtc, for a next version (not sure if it is already implemented) I would reccomend checking the size of the itunes data file 03:56 < courtc> already do 03:56 < macPod2> so you only have to run the loader when necessary 03:56 < macPod2> :) 03:56 < WariniMAC> why were u asking that???? 03:56 < courtc> but that would require writing data to a file... 03:57 < WariniMAC> ???? 03:57 < courtc> different apps write the itunedb a different way.. 03:57 < macPod2> I used iTunes version 4.X 03:57 < WariniMAC> I used itunes is that ok???? 03:58 < courtc> thats fine... 03:58 < macPod2> no warin mac, you will need to format your comuters harddrive now 03:58 < courtc> lol 03:58 < macPod2> then give me money 03:58 < WariniMAC> lol 03:58 < macPod2> a really need money 03:58 < macPod2> 30 dollars 03:58 < macPod2> for a firewire card 03:58 < macPod2> otherwise I am going to have some developing troubles 03:59 < courtc> the loader only runs once every time you load podzilla 03:59 < WariniMAC> here loading forever, hd not spinning 03:59 < macPod2> courtc, could you restrict it even farther? 03:59 < macPod2> like have a data file 04:00 < macPod2> and it saves a checksum of the file written by the itunes 04:00 < courtc> i thought it worked on yours WariniMAC? 04:00 < macPod2> and also have a file you can load 04:00 < WariniMAC> why it's not working 04:00 < macPod2> well.. I guess that would not make sense 04:00 < WariniMAC> no 04:00 < macPod2> since supposedly your code works fast 04:00 < courtc> yea thought about that... 04:00 < WariniMAC> it doesn't sorry 04:01 < WariniMAC> what is the prob 04:01 < courtc> ok well leachbj didnt give me the cod back.. i might know whats wrong though... 04:01 < courtc> cod... as in codfish 04:01 < courtc> i mean code 04:01 < macPod2> bleh 04:01 < macPod2> their oil taste terrible 04:01 < macPod2> and causes cancer I beleive 04:01 < WariniMAC> o but the prob it's with podzilla's code 04:02 < courtc> yea.. oh wait he put it in cvs i think... let me check... 04:02 < WariniMAC> other bug is that file browse is slower 04:03 < courtc> thats no bug... 04:03 < courtc> its a feature ;) 04:03 < WariniMAC> no 04:03 < macPod2> heh 04:03 < WariniMAC> it's to slow 04:03 < WariniMAC> when u go back 04:04 < courtc> its got to read the drive every time... 04:04 < WariniMAC> or in a folder 04:04 < WariniMAC> yes but before was faster 04:05 < WariniMAC> ... 04:06 < courtc> i didnt change a tihing 04:06 < courtc> *thang 04:07 < macPod2> ain no thang 04:08 < courtc> found the prob 04:08 < WariniMAC> hey is there any whay to execute software from the file rowse, like programing a game and open the exec for fbrowse 04:08 < courtc> you have to program it in 04:08 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC8B5F30.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:08 < WariniMAC> what??? 04:09 < courtc> you have to program it in 04:09 < courtc> lol 04:09 < WariniMAC> in what 04:09 < courtc> podzilla 04:09 < courtc> leachbj screwed my code up 04:09 < WariniMAC> program the game u say 04:10 -!- macPod2 is now known as macPod 04:10 < courtc> no program podzilla 04:10 < WariniMAC> program the game u say????? 04:10 < WariniMAC> o ok 04:10 < courtc> hold on let me fix you two up an exec... 04:11 < WariniMAC> exec for what, the file browse 04:11 < WariniMAC> ??? 04:11 < courtc> no for itunes *sigh 04:11 < WariniMAC> o ok 04:11 < WariniMAC> u made the code 04:12 < courtc> most of it... 04:12 < WariniMAC> so there is no way to have podzilla like a normal operative system (windows, os x, linux) that u go an run an exec from the "file browse" 04:13 < courtc> omg its not implemented yet... chill out 04:13 < WariniMAC> what is omg 04:14 < WariniMAC> ??? 04:14 < WariniMAC> wich software can i use to edit podzilla 04:15 < WariniMAC> ??? 04:23 < courtc> try the podzilla here http://so2.sytes.net/ipod/podzilla 04:24 < WariniMAC> what is microwindows for 04:25 < courtc> really small people 04:26 < WariniMAC> what 04:26 < courtc> 2nd base 04:26 < WariniMAC> mmmm don't understand I'm spanish speaker 04:27 < macPod> es para muy pequeno personas 04:27 < WariniMAC> why it's to dificoult to use or what 04:28 < WariniMAC> ??? 04:29 < courtc> yes ironically small people have larger brains 04:29 < WariniMAC> loading forever 04:29 < macPod> here is something to note: init: /bin/podzilla respawning too fsat 04:31 < WariniMAC> it says loading.. for ever 04:31 < courtc> try the scroll wheel.... 04:33 < WariniMAC> it doesn't move and the title is "loading.." 04:33 < WariniMAC> I mean tha title is where is the podzilla name 04:34 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC991090.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 04:37 < courtc> can you send me your iTunesDB file? 04:40 < WariniMAC> were it is 04:41 < courtc> ipod_control/itunes/itunesdb 04:43 < WariniMAC> how do i copy under unix 04:43 < courtc> cp 04:43 < courtc> co source destination 04:43 < WariniMAC> to take uot the file because I can't see it in that folder 04:43 < courtc> *cp 04:45 < WariniMAC> how can i send it to u 04:45 < courtc> cp /iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB somewhere 04:45 < courtc> you know hot to use dctc? 04:45 < WariniMAC> no, do u have aim 04:45 < courtc> expmod8 04:45 < WariniMAC> what??? 04:46 < courtc> no 04:46 < courtc> umm... 04:46 < WariniMAC> I dont know what that is 04:47 < courtc> email ccavin@gmail.com 04:47 < WariniMAC> u have gmail, how did u got it 04:48 < courtc> im the founders son... 04:49 < WariniMAC> o 04:49 < WariniMAC> is there anyu way to get one 04:49 < courtc> gmailswap.com 04:50 < WariniMAC> oooo but gmailswap it's not the google one or it is 04:51 < courtc> yea... 04:51 < WariniMAC> can I have a 1 gig email??? 04:52 < courtc> i dont have any invites sorry 04:52 < WariniMAC> nooo, not asking that, if there is any way to have one 04:52 < courtc> gmailswap.com 04:53 < WariniMAC> what is the swap 04:54 < WariniMAC> ????? 04:55 < WariniMAC> ????? 04:55 < courtc> ;offer to count to a thousand in spanish for the person that gives you a\n 04:56 < WariniMAC> a/n??? 04:56 < WariniMAC> I send u the email 04:56 < courtc> i've gotta go pack ttyl 04:57 < WariniMAC> ok 04:57 < WariniMAC> have a nice trip 05:10 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has quit ["Quit"] 05:50 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-33-140-121.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["donkey? what?"] 07:13 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 08:43 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-3-90.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 09:35 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-3-90.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["@+"] 09:39 -!- Pimptillo [~aus316tin@adsl-64-170-3-22.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:39 -!- Pimptillo [~aus316tin@adsl-64-170-3-22.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:40 -!- Pimptillo [~aus316tin@adsl-64-170-3-22.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:40 < Pimptillo> hey 09:40 < Pimptillo> can you turn off your ipod while using linux? 09:40 < Pimptillo> without rebooting 09:44 < normalperson> not yet 09:44 < Pimptillo> damn 09:44 < Pimptillo> when looking at my mp3's there is only like 3 letters names 09:46 < normalperson> I think gtkpod munges filenames up 09:47 < Pimptillo> what distro do you use? 09:47 < normalperson> debian sid 09:47 < Pimptillo> i use suse 09:47 < Pimptillo> im thinking about changing 09:48 < Pimptillo> to gentoo 09:48 -!- ln [~ln@reverse-213-146-117-139.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #ipodlinux 09:49 < ln> i have trouble setting up a toolchain for the ipod. the precompiled ones dont seem to play nicely with the autotools and/or unable to generated shared libs. 09:50 < ln> i build one from source using the debian system and they work nicely. however these dont include the -elf2flt option. 09:50 < ln> any suggestions? 09:51 < normalperson> you can't generate shared libs iirc 09:51 < ln> so you have to link everythink statically? 09:52 < normalperson> yeah 09:52 < ln> hmmm. that would fix that problem them i guess. 09:52 < ln> thanks 09:53 < ln> too bad i spend time figuring out how to do shared libs :) 10:01 -!- Pimptillo [~aus316tin@adsl-64-170-3-22.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net] has quit [] 10:46 < ln> how do i transfer files to the ipod when it is in linux? 10:46 < ln> or do i have to reboot all the time? 10:47 < normalperson> dunno yet, I'll probably try to get NFS working 10:47 < normalperson> or FTP 10:47 < ln> ftp should not be too difficult i guess... 10:48 < normalperson> just need to find an ftpd that doesn't fork 10:48 < normalperson> NFS might be easier 10:49 < normalperson> I'm still stuck on getting FLAC to play smoothly 10:51 < ln> fork is not implemented? 10:51 < ln> how does inetd etc. work then? 10:52 < normalperson> vfork/pthreads, I think 10:52 < ln> ok 10:52 < normalperson> fork won't work w/o an MMU I don't think 10:52 < ln> makes sense 10:53 < ln> i just copied my iTunesDB (1.88 MB) from the music partition to the root dir. that really takes some time. 10:53 < ln> maybe it is because of the seeking back and forth. 10:54 < normalperson> might be faster to copy to your desktop system first and then back to the ipod 10:54 < ln> yep. oh and then i tried: cat iTunesDB >/dev/null but it does not seem to understand redirection 10:55 < normalperson> you'll need to compile the minix shell in for redirection/pipes to work 10:55 < normalperson> sash is really limited 10:55 < ln> are you using a 2.6 system as the desktop machine? 10:57 < normalperson> most of my systems are 2.6, but the one with firewire on it is 2.4.26 10:57 < ln> the ipodeth driver seems to be somewhat broken here. it works for a whiel and then it stops 10:57 < ln> ah ok 10:58 < normalperson> I didn't have much luck with ipodeth in 2.6, either 11:09 < ln> just tested my itunesdb parsing routines on the ipod. they work! 11:10 < ln> i guess i will have to time them now. to see how fast they are. 11:11 < normalperson> cool, I think courtc is working on itunesdb stuff 11:21 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-3-163.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 11:23 < hugoboss24> who has bring off itunesDb ??? 12:24 < ln> ? 12:24 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-3-163.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:25 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:55 < ln> just timed my parsing routines. on the ipod it takes about 30 secs to parse a 2285 songs db. i guess that is a bit slower than the original apple parser. 12:56 < ln> my routines does quiete a lot of malloc/free. is that slow on the ipod? 12:57 < ln> where can i find the latest podzilla? 13:53 -!- ln [~ln@reverse-213-146-117-139.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit ["Client exiting"] 13:53 -!- ln [~ln@reverse-213-146-117-139.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #ipodlinux 14:57 < ln> has anyone tried making evas etc. run on the ipod? 15:19 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-4-35.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 15:20 < hugoboss24> hi 15:51 < ln> hugoboss24: you asked something about itunesDB earlier today. I did not quite understand the quewstion 16:05 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-4-35.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:11 -!- elinenbe [trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:14 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-115-2-18.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 16:17 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-115-2-18.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 16:56 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has joined #ipodlinux 16:56 < WariniMAC> hi 17:06 -!- Ubel [~Ubel@ini1-p212.du.simnet.is] has joined #ipodlinux 17:12 -!- sneakerelph [~SneakerEl@ACC4C684.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:46 -!- zw1 [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:50 -!- Goose4all [~Goose4all@ip-217-172-179-135.inaddr.intergenia.de] has quit [kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:51 -!- Goose4all [~Goose4all@ip-217-172-179-135.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:12 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:16 -!- sneakerelph [~SneakerEl@ACC4C684.ipt.aol.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:20 -!- saldaNa [~saldana@ulm9-d9bb3b0d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:32 -!- saldaNa [~saldana@ulm9-d9bb3b0d.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 18:48 -!- eddan [eddan@081don1.cm.chello.no] has joined #ipodlinux 18:48 -!- eddan [eddan@081don1.cm.chello.no] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:24 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has quit ["Quit"] 19:35 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has joined #ipodlinux 19:36 < WariniMAC> hey there 19:42 < Ubel> hello 19:44 < WariniMAC> how are u doing 19:45 < Ubel> I am fine 19:45 < Ubel> how are you mister WariniMAC? 20:02 -!- KuRcZ [~KuRcZ@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:03 < KuRcZ> hey guys 20:03 < WariniMAC> fine, here trying to port snake to podzilla 20:03 < Ubel> hello KuRcZ 20:03 < KuRcZ> what do you mean by port? 20:03 < WariniMAC> I found a source code in c, trying to make it run under podzilla 20:04 < KuRcZ> and thats porting? 20:05 < WariniMAC> port iss take from one plataform to another, like porting mmmmm...... fifa 2004 to mac os x 20:05 < KuRcZ> ohh 20:05 < KuRcZ> thats cool 20:06 < KuRcZ> sounds interesting 20:06 < KuRcZ> is it difficult? 20:06 < WariniMAC> mmmmm kind of, havo to know programing 20:07 < KuRcZ> ohh 20:07 < KuRcZ> i wanna learn C, but im too lazy 20:07 < KuRcZ> and i syill havnt finished learning php 20:07 < WariniMAC> I don't know too much because i'm kinda lazy too 20:08 < KuRcZ> lol 20:08 < WariniMAC> do u know were can i get podzilla source code 20:10 < WariniMAC> ???? 20:10 < KuRcZ> umm 20:10 < KuRcZ> maybe its on the site? 20:10 < KuRcZ> ipodlinux 20:10 < WariniMAC> no, can't find it 20:10 < KuRcZ> or ask court wen hes one, or maybe macPod 20:11 < WariniMAC> court is on a trip to argentina 20:14 < KuRcZ> when did he leave? 20:15 < WariniMAC> today i think 20:17 < KuRcZ> ohh 20:26 < WariniMAC> 1 year 20:26 < KuRcZ> what languages you know? 20:27 < WariniMAC> c # c++ and c 20:27 < KuRcZ> cool 20:27 < WariniMAC> learning java now 20:27 < KuRcZ> thats awesome 20:28 < KuRcZ> do you just search online for tutorials and stuff? 20:28 < WariniMAC> no university courses 20:29 < KuRcZ> ohhh 20:41 < KuRcZ> does anyone know if its possible to view a text larger then 4kbs, on a single page on ipod? 20:46 -!- KuRcZ [~KuRcZ@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Kopete 0.8.0 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 20:47 < ln> when i try to compile podzilla for the ipod i get the followinf error: 20:47 < ln> podzilla.elf2flt(.text+0x33360): In function `vfork': 20:47 < ln> : undefined reference to `__libc_vfork' 20:47 < ln> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 20:47 < ln> does anyone have a clue how to fix that?> 20:48 < ln> WariniMAC: you can get podzilla from the ipodlinux cvs rep 20:50 -!- matz-josh [~matz@p83.129.3.38.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 21:11 -!- matz-josh [~matz@p83.129.3.38.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["Client exiting"] 21:21 < WariniMAC> hi 21:22 < WariniMAC> anyone there 21:24 -!- guest12345 [~guest1234@d150-71-205.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:24 -!- guest12345 [~guest1234@d150-71-205.home.cgocable.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 21:35 < Ubel> alot of people are here 21:38 < WariniMAC> hi 21:39 < Ubel> hello warinimac 21:39 < WariniMAC> how are u doing 21:39 < Ubel> fine 21:39 < Ubel> u? 21:40 < WariniMAC> not that good 21:40 < WariniMAC> I'm trying to port a snake game I found to the ipod but I really don't know how to do it 21:42 < WariniMAC> :'o( 21:45 < Ubel> ok 21:46 < Ubel> in what language is the snake game and what library does it use? 21:48 < WariniMAC> it's in c 21:48 < WariniMAC> wanna see the code, it's in a webpage 21:48 < Ubel> uhh 21:48 < Ubel> have you any expirence with C? 21:49 < WariniMAC> I know c++ c# and I'm leaning c 21:50 < WariniMAC> wanna see the webpage 21:50 < WariniMAC> ???? 21:54 < WariniMAC> are u there 21:54 < WariniMAC> well this is the webpage anyway 21:54 < WariniMAC> http://www.vyomworld.com/source/show.asp?ScriptID=440 22:09 < WariniMAC> ????? 22:19 < WariniMAC> mmmmm anyone there??????? 22:29 -!- KuRcZ [~jeff_kurc@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has joined #iPodLinux 22:44 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:48 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-169.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:52 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.110] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:02 -!- KuRcZ [~jeff_kurc@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:07 -!- ln [~ln@reverse-213-146-117-139.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit ["Client exiting"] 23:17 -!- OoSLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-246.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 23:27 -!- elinenbe [trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:38 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-169.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:43 -!- zw1 [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has quit [Client Quit] --- Log closed Mon Jul 12 23:52:22 2004 --- Log opened Mon Jul 12 23:52:45 2004 --- Log closed Tue Jul 13 00:00:03 2004