--- Log opened Thu Jul 08 00:00:01 2004 00:06 -!- KuRcZ [~jeff_kurc@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:09 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:21 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC96B566.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:22 < macPod> I just looked through the entire snowDay.pdf 00:22 < macPod> I can't believe someone spent the time to type up 14 pages of nonsense LOL 00:32 < courtc> snowDay.pdf? 00:32 < macPod> Yea 00:32 < macPod> It is an april fools joke 00:32 < macPod> someone typed how to play quicktime movies on the ipod after programming 00:33 < macPod> accept the file :P 00:33 < macPod> they also had another one about porting doom to the mini ipod 00:33 < courtc> oh.. yea i never looked at that... 00:33 < macPod> take a look 00:33 < macPod> it is a good gag 00:34 < macPod> I'm just surprised someone spent the time to type 14 pages on it 00:35 -!- jljsleep [~agp@AMontpellier-202-1-4-68.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:36 < Pinkevin> Sorry to interfere (bad spelling) in your conversation, but could you send me that file, snowday.pdf, I've heard about the joke but nothing more 00:36 < Pinkevin> Or could you tell me where to get it? 00:51 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-202-1-2-247.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 00:57 < courtc> wow... 00:57 < macPod> I see you read it ;P 00:57 < courtc> alot of effor was put into that 00:57 < macPod> Yea 00:57 -!- elinenbe [trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [" HydraIRC rocks! -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 00:57 < macPod> but why? 00:57 < courtc> dunno... 00:57 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 00:57 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 00:58 < courtc> i like the "ls -laf (all files?)" 00:59 < davidc__> ? 01:00 < macPod> well that is a joke 01:00 < macPod> laf = laugh 01:00 < courtc> snowday.pdf 01:00 < macPod> there are a couple of hints 01:00 < macPod> like at the end 01:00 < macPod> No foolin! 01:00 < courtc> f and a are redundant... 01:03 < courtc> i wonder if anyone tried... and added 13 ASCII to every char... 01:03 < courtc> what a pain 01:03 < macPod> lol 01:04 < macPod> rot 13 01:04 < courtc> but not really... 01:04 < courtc> he says all special characters have to be increased by 13 also... 01:05 < macPod> It would be funny when the person encounters char 255 or so 01:06 < courtc> hmm.. 12? 01:07 < macPod> or... tilt 01:17 -!- KuRcZ [~jeff_kurc@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:17 < KuRcZ> hello 01:17 < KuRcZ> anyone here? 01:18 < macPod> yea+ 01:18 < KuRcZ> what's up? 01:18 < macPod> making a screen saver 01:18 < KuRcZ> sweet 01:18 < macPod> then going back to ipodlinux 01:18 < KuRcZ> what kind? 01:18 < macPod> ^^ 01:18 < macPod> fetches images off the web 01:18 < KuRcZ> thats cool 01:19 < macPod> yup 01:19 < KuRcZ> you programming it yourself? 01:19 < macPod> yep 01:19 < KuRcZ> thats awesome 01:19 < KuRcZ> what language you using? 01:19 < macPod> objective-c with cocoa framework 01:19 < macPod> s 01:19 < KuRcZ> col 01:19 < KuRcZ> cool* 01:20 < KuRcZ> eh, how can i install third party software for iPod linux, on my ipod? 01:21 < macPod> Well, first it needs to be compiled to work on the iPod 01:21 < macPod> then you just drag it onto the ipod and execute it via the terminal 01:21 < KuRcZ> oh 01:21 < KuRcZ> k 01:21 < KuRcZ> lol 01:22 < macPod> or through a gui like that desktop thing 01:22 < KuRcZ> how do you execute sometihng on linux? 01:22 < macPod> two ways 01:22 < macPod> well 01:22 < macPod> either go to the directory it is in 01:22 < macPod> and type ./theprogram 01:23 < macPod> or type the path including the program into the terminal like /programs/program 01:23 < macPod> or you can add it to the sbin 01:23 < macPod> then at the terminal you just type theProgram 01:24 < KuRcZ> ok 01:24 < KuRcZ> i know about the ./thing i've used that before 01:24 < KuRcZ> whats the sbin thing? 01:24 < macPod> where all programs in linux are 01:24 < macPod> you can also put it in the bin directory 01:24 < macPod> sbin and bin are directories 01:25 < KuRcZ> ok 01:26 < KuRcZ> thanks 02:01 < courtc> typically sbin is for apllications only runnable by root... 02:02 < courtc> or that sghould be only runnable by root... 02:02 < macPod> but 02:02 < macPod> if you notice, sbin is linked to the bin 02:02 < macPod> and we only run in single user mode at the moment 02:02 < courtc> i was bout to say that... 02:03 < macPod> :D 02:11 < courtc> so i have my .Xmodmap file set up fine... and i updated gnome... and gnome makes X just ignore it.. WTH 02:12 < macPod> well your problem is you are using gnome 02:12 < courtc> wah... so what i shoyuld use OSX? 02:13 < macPod> Why yes! 02:13 < macPod> or kde 02:13 < KuRcZ> meh 02:13 < courtc> cry me a river, i know what DE i like and KDE isnt it 02:14 < macPod> :P 02:14 < courtc> have you ever looked at hat kde does to your computer? 02:14 < macPod> Nah 02:14 < macPod> I use aqua 02:15 < macPod> mmmm 02:15 < courtc> you might as well take an axe to your cpu as use KDE 02:15 < macPod> kde probably does rape yoour resources 02:15 < macPod> what about gnustep 02:15 < macPod> and all of that stuff 02:15 < macPod> good stuff 02:15 < macPod> although slightly unrelated :P 02:17 < KuRcZ> KDE is bad? 02:17 < courtc> you are just obsessed with object-oriented stuff arn you macPod? 02:17 < courtc> I dont like it... 02:19 < macPod> It's the way to go 02:19 < macPod> however it is hard to adjust to it 02:19 < macPod> I tried learning it a while while doing a c++ course and got confused 02:20 < macPod> I'm hungry.. 02:20 < macPod> but can't eat 02:20 < KuRcZ> why? 02:20 < courtc> docters appt. 02:21 < courtc> right? 02:21 < macPod> yep :D 02:21 < macPod> I must have said something in here before 02:21 < courtc> nope.... my mom just had one... 02:21 < macPod> I'm really tempted to eat large quantities of icecream and pizza 02:22 < courtc> so i related the no eating thang 02:22 < macPod> so my cholesterol goes off the scale 02:22 < macPod> ah 02:22 < courtc> lol 02:22 < courtc> it was that or you had no food and no money... 02:23 < courtc> or your jaw wired shut... 02:23 < macPod> hmm 02:28 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-114.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:35 < courtc> there are 445 people in #gnome and not one will talk to me ;'( 02:36 < courtc> ok maybe only 45... 02:36 < macPod> try #kde 02:36 < macPod> :D 02:36 < courtc> axe ->cpu 02:40 * courtc repeatedly presses next track on his keyboard to make the song change... 02:41 < macPod> why don't you go make a hash :P 02:47 -!- KuRcZ [~jeff_kurc@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:50 < courtc> a hash like #?? 02:50 < courtc> a hash brownie? 02:50 < courtc> whats a hash? 02:50 < macPod> hmm 02:50 < macPod> :P 03:21 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-19-52-4.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:23 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC96B566.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 03:23 -!- courtc [~court@adsl-19-52-4.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:38 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:42 -!- wishie [snadge@203-217-80-80.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 04:44 < wishie> anyone around ? 04:45 < courtc> maybe... whats up? 04:45 < wishie> i was wondering if, when i put linux on my ipod, it can read files from directories, or if it still has to use the apple dir structure 04:46 < wishie> ie, all of my mp3's are in directories..ie c:\music\metallica - reload\ 04:46 < wishie> well, /mnt/mp3/metallica - reload/ anyway :) 04:46 < wishie> the issue i have with my ipod is, that alot of my mp3's dont have correct ID3 tags..and that is what the apple firmware seems to use to sort files etc 04:47 < wishie> i realise that apple have done it that way for the most efficient file access/battery life etc.. 04:47 < wishie> the dir structure i mean 04:47 < wishie> F00-F19 etc 04:47 < wishie> 04:48 < courtc> linux has its own directory structure... 04:49 < courtc> it can also breowse you existing directory structure (f00-F19) 04:49 < wishie> so it can use its own structure ? so i can put files on the ipod, as i would on my PC ? 04:50 < courtc> breowse? whats thats? brewse maybe ;) 04:50 < wishie> ie, not in the F00-F19 structure 04:50 < courtc> nono browse... 04:50 < courtc> yea you can set it up however you want... 04:51 < courtc> but the apple firmeware wont be able to access it... 04:51 < wishie> the only thing that pisses me off about the apple firmware, is that you can copy dirs over the the ipod, and play from them 04:51 < wishie> i dont care if the apple firmware cant access it, really 04:51 < wishie> i understand that mp3 playback isnt optimal yet though ? 04:51 < courtc> as was about to warn you about that... 04:52 < courtc> yea its kindof stuttery 04:52 < wishie> doesnt the ipod have a hardware mp3 decoder ? 04:52 < courtc> ?? not that im aware of... 04:53 < wishie> hmm, ive read so many 'hardware specs' on the ipod, but im sure atleast one of them mentioned a hardware decoder 04:53 < wishie> hows the OGG support going ? is it at a better stage than mp3 ? 04:54 < courtc> nowhere close.. 04:54 < wishie> ok..is there much hope for that ? OGG support is something im keen about 04:55 < courtc> as are many other people, so im sure it will be much better quality before too long 04:56 < wishie> excellent.. 04:56 < wishie> i dont care for wma etc, just mp3/ogg basically..heh 04:56 < wishie> alright, so i can dual boot ive been told..i will head home and do that soonish 04:57 < courtc> good luck.. ill be up for a while so if you have any questions... 04:57 < courtc> you know where to look,,, 04:57 < wishie> thanks.. see ya 04:57 -!- wishie [snadge@203-217-80-80.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 05:24 < Goose4all> morning 05:26 < courtc> morning... 05:30 < Goose4all> hehe... still awake? ;) 05:30 < courtc> yea right... --- Log closed Thu Jul 08 05:40:58 2004 --- Log opened Thu Jul 08 05:44:51 2004 05:44 -!- _ipodstats [dpalffy@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:46 < Goose4all> good job ;) 05:53 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:04 -!- OoSLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-252.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:24 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-114.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 08:12 -!- tlg [~tlg@21-123.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be] has joined #ipodlinux 08:18 -!- OoSLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-252.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:57 -!- wishie [wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 08:58 < wishie> you around courtc? 09:01 < wishie> bbs 09:02 -!- wishie [wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Client Quit] 10:37 * oxygen77 is away: chui pas là 11:31 -!- wishie [~wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 11:32 < wishie> anyone alive ? i just installed ipod linux.. 11:33 < wishie> how can i tell it which dir to look at for music etc ? how can i boot into the apple firmware etc ? 11:39 < courtc> well... right now the Playlist aand Browse and several other options dont work... 11:40 < courtc> so you can look around in the file browser and find your music... 11:41 < courtc> reboot... and hold rewind... that should put you in apples firmware.... 11:41 < courtc> bb in 6min. 11:44 -!- wishie [~wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:50 < courtc> guess 6 min. was too long.... 12:04 -!- wishie [~wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 12:07 < wishie> how can i choose to boot the apple software, as opposed to the ipodlinux ? 12:09 < courtc> hold down rewind while boooting up... 12:10 < wishie> ahh ok, excellent 12:11 < wishie> umm, ive just been reading the forums, gonna try another podzilla version 12:11 < wishie> the one im using is WAY too sensitive with the scroll wheel 12:11 < courtc> yup check out the beta... 12:12 < courtc> http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/podzilla 12:13 < wishie> oooer, a beta 12:13 * wishie loves betas 12:13 < wishie> i can just cp podzilla to /sbin/ or whatever ? 12:13 < courtc> yup 12:14 < courtc> make sure its executable... 12:14 < wishie> anything new and exciting ? 12:14 < wishie> courtc: that was the first thing that i did :) 12:14 < courtc> you might want to copy it to /bin 12:14 < courtc> couple games 12:14 < courtc> an itunesdb parser is coming soon... 12:15 < wishie> tremor worth a look at, for curiosity ? 12:15 < courtc> to a theatre near you ;) 12:15 < wishie> haha, fsck the iTunesDB 12:15 < wishie> i hate the way iTunes organises files 12:16 < wishie> is the mp3/ogg player going to run in the background in the future, instead of running in the foreground, over the top of podzilla ? 12:16 < wishie> so what should i download from the beta section ? just podzilla ? 12:16 < courtc> actually im working on that also... 12:16 < courtc> thats all you should need for now... 12:17 < wishie> does podzilla still quit if you press MENU in the top level of podzilla ? 12:17 < courtc> nope 12:17 < wishie> excellent 12:17 < wishie> that was starting to piss me off :P 12:17 < wishie> i would press it by accident, then have to reboot the ipod 12:18 < wishie> one more quick question.. 12:18 < courtc> yea... i think it was a bug... 12:18 < courtc> shoot... 12:18 < wishie> do i have to force the ipod to disk mode, for it to work, or will it be mountable once linux is booted on it ? 12:19 < wishie> the sbp2 module is doing some funky shit 12:19 < wishie> ie, even though ive unmounted the ipod, when i try to rmmod sbp2, it says device or resource busy 12:19 < courtc> it wont be mountable while linux is running.. however telnet works... kindof 12:20 < wishie> heh, well, looks like i have to reboot my pc anyway, as sbp2 is playing up 12:20 < courtc> yea i got sick of that so now i have sbp2 built into my kernel... 12:20 < wishie> ahh ok 12:21 < wishie> so that fixes it ? how about when you want to unplug the ipod ? 12:21 < courtc> just make sure to unmount beforehand 12:22 < wishie> ahh, and thats sufficient? 12:22 < courtc> works for me... 12:22 < wishie> i suppose, linux would write all cached data to the drive etc before it unmounts 12:22 < courtc> and i mount/umount alot... 12:22 < wishie> what the hell is mp3play in /bin ? 12:23 < courtc> mad player i think... 12:23 < wishie> ahh ok 12:23 < wishie> so this uses MAD by default ? 12:23 < wishie> how about that intel mp3 player i heard about ? 12:23 < courtc> no mp3example is the one we use... 12:24 < wishie> ahh ok, which is the intel one, yes ? 12:24 < courtc> thats the intel player... 12:24 < wishie> ok..good stuff 12:24 < wishie> hmm, trying to see where i set my ip address now..brb 12:25 < courtc> what did you lose it? 12:26 < wishie> found it..heh 12:28 < wishie> hmm, podzilla.conf ? 12:28 < courtc> yup... what about it? 12:30 < wishie> im trying to find an example one, as i assume its meant to be in /etc ? 12:30 < courtc> well podzilla should create it... 12:30 < wishie> well, the default didnt..heh, brb, trying the new one.. 12:35 < wishie> ok, so how to test ogg playback ? 12:37 < courtc> hmm...that'lll be tricky.. 12:37 < courtc> hold on let me try on my ipod... 12:42 < wishie> hmm, i wonder if there is an irc client for the ipod..haha! ircing from your ipod, via telnet 12:42 < courtc> useful... 12:43 < courtc> telll you what check in tomorrow and i'll give you a podzilla that plays oggs... 12:44 < courtc> not in the mood for coding right now... 12:45 < courtc> fair? 12:50 < wishie> hehe 12:50 < wishie> yeah man, do rush 12:50 < wishie> i was just looking at the forums, about a graphical interface, that isnt podzilla.. 12:50 < wishie> no rush i mean 12:50 < wishie> no rush 12:52 < courtc> yea.. which one? 12:54 < wishie> umm.. http://worm.me.uk 12:54 < courtc> ipod-desktop or the one with like 80 different pictures and 5 different topics.. 12:54 < courtc> oh yea 12:55 < wishie> which one is that ? is there a working gui one for me to test ? 12:55 < wishie> or a way to change the podzilla font atleast ? :P 12:56 < courtc> nope... none so far...at least no good ways... 12:56 < wishie> what is ipod-desktop ? 12:56 < wishie> and which one has 80 photos/5 topics ? 12:57 < courtc> worm.me.uk or what ever is the 5 topic one.. 12:57 < wishie> ahh ok, looks like it might be promising, one day 12:58 < wishie> a would like a nice graphical interface though 12:58 < courtc> ipod-desktop is actually a working podzilla-like interface with icons... 12:58 < wishie> where can i get it ? so i can test it ? 12:58 < courtc> by Hallo99 12:58 < wishie> and wtf format is podzilla.conf in ? heh 12:58 < courtc> binary 12:59 < wishie> thats why i cant read it..heh 12:59 < courtc> yea vim podzilla.conf is too helpful... 12:59 < courtc> *isnt 12:59 < courtc> check on the forums for ipod-desktop... 13:00 < wishie> alrighty, ill do that now 13:00 < wishie> btw, where are you from ? 13:01 < courtc> Georgia, US 13:01 < wishie> ahh ok, im in Australia 13:02 < courtc> under software dev.. look for 4 Gewinnt... 13:02 < wishie> ahh, found it.. 13:02 < wishie> johannes.krude.de 13:03 < wishie> i wonder if irssi or bitchx will compile for ipod..i just want to telnet to the ipod, and irc from it :P 13:03 < courtc> go ahead and try... 13:04 < wishie> the compile flags are listed on the site, right ? 13:04 < courtc> arm-elf-gcc code.c -o program -elf2flt 13:06 < courtc> you know where to get the cross-compilier? 13:06 < wishie> it was on the site i believe 13:07 < courtc> you can find it on uclinux.org 13:07 < wishie> i will look into it tomorrow i think..its 11pm, and i got to get up at 5am 13:07 < courtc> look for arm-elf tools 13:07 < wishie> one last thing..how can i look at images on the ipod ? is that possible ? 13:07 < courtc> its 9am here.. i didnt go to bed :( 13:08 < courtc> yup it is... just make them... umm 128x168 i think.... and four colors... 13:08 < wishie> heh 13:09 < courtc> jpgs work and gifs used to at least.. dunno if they still do... 13:10 < courtc> just select them in the filebrowser... 13:10 < wishie> ahh ok, excellent 13:10 < wishie> but anything bigger, and not 4 colours wont load at all ? 13:11 < courtc> i dont have a clue... sorry i was never interested in the graphic abilities of my ipod.... 13:11 < courtc> wont hurt much to give it a try... 13:12 < wishie> yeah, i guess, well, im gonna shoot off to bed 13:12 < wishie> thanks alot for your help 13:12 < courtc> np 13:12 < wishie> this is all very interesting etc 13:12 < wishie> my gf asked my "why do you want to put linux on everything" 13:12 < wishie> and i always reply with "cause i can" 13:13 < courtc> absolutly 13:13 < wishie> i have an arcade machine running linux 13:13 < wishie> and a set-top box 13:13 < courtc> nice... 13:13 < wishie> anyway, as i said, bed 13:13 < wishie> night man 13:13 < wishie> thanks again 13:13 < courtc> i need to get my brothers ti-89 runnig it.. 13:13 < courtc> g'night 13:13 -!- wishie [~wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit ["sleep time."] 13:37 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:56 -!- wishie [~wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 13:56 < wishie> ok, i want to see this working, i cant sleep without it :P 13:56 < wishie> im trying to get eth1394 to work 13:57 < wishie> but my 'host' is running 2.4.24 14:19 -!- wishie [~wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit ["Changing server"] 14:20 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has joined #ipodlinux 14:23 -!- wishie [~wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 14:23 < wishie> ok, i think the eth1394 driver patch should be ported to 2.4.24 :) 14:26 < wishie> 14:26 -!- wishie [~wishie@203-173-59-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Client Quit] 14:40 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:08 * oxygen77 is away: chui pas là 16:19 -!- qwertzz [~qwertzz@202.88.221.120] has joined #ipodlinux 16:57 -!- qwertzz [~qwertzz@202.88.221.120] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:11 -!- Stereo [~stereo@212.76.255.100] has quit [Client Quit] 17:11 -!- Stereo [~stereo@212.76.255.100] has joined #ipodlinux 17:40 -!- matz-josh [~matz@p83.129.29.121.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ipodlinux 18:06 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@p54879572.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:06 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 18:29 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-106.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:30 -!- jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-202-1-4-179.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 18:30 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-116-1-176.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 18:33 < hugoboss24> hi 18:33 < leachbj> hey 18:36 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-202-1-2-247.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:45 -!- OoSLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-150.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:47 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-116-1-176.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["@+"] 18:49 -!- OoSLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-150.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:02 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@ppp-67-116-228-106.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:05 -!- matz-josh [~matz@p83.129.29.121.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["Client exiting"] 19:15 -!- MaDsKiLLz [~Billy@d14-69-39-34.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:15 < MaDsKiLLz> hey 19:16 < MaDsKiLLz> should i get an ipod mini or should i wait till i have enough for an ipod 19:21 < leachbj> mini's don't run linux... 19:28 < MaDsKiLLz> i konw 19:28 < MaDsKiLLz> lol 19:28 < MaDsKiLLz> :\ 19:28 < MaDsKiLLz> im just gunna get a regular ipod 19:29 < MaDsKiLLz> they are sexier anyway 19:29 < MaDsKiLLz> :P 19:31 < normalperson> has anybody actually tried linux on a mini? 19:31 < leachbj> not that I know. 19:39 -!- MaDsKiLLz [~Billy@d14-69-39-34.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:39 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-2-108.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 19:51 -!- hugo_ [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-116-3-9.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 19:51 < hugo_> leachbj:are you here ?? 19:51 < leachbj> yup 19:52 < hugo_> what is the file named ipod-LInux.tar.gz on the /download/beta/ ... and the file named aggety ?? 19:53 < hugo_> because they are new but i don't know what they are ... 19:54 < leachbj> the agetty is for a serial terminal on the ipod... it doesnt work (there is a better one linked on the forums) 19:54 < leachbj> the ipod-Linux.tar.gz you'll have to wait for macPod to announce ;) 19:54 < hugo_> ok and the ipod-LInux.tar.gz ?? 19:54 < hugo_> what is macpod ?? 19:54 < leachbj> not what, who 19:55 < hugo_> and who is ??? 19:55 < hugo_> macpod 19:56 < leachbj> another ipodlinux user... its his software & he will probably announce it on the forum tomorrow or so. 19:56 < hugo_> i download it and i find an installer ..... 19:56 < hugo_> for mac 19:58 < hugo_> but not recent kernel and podzilla ... 19:58 < leachbj> as I said, you'll have to wait for macpod's announcement as he has all the details. 19:59 < hugo_> ok 19:59 < leachbj> btw that demo posted by earth_wormjim only runs on x86 linux, not the ipod yet. 20:00 < hugo_> personnaly i work on a french localization of the dowumentation ... 20:00 < leachbj> great... 20:00 < leachbj> of the installation.shtml? 20:01 < hugo_> yes but for the moment jsut for mac installation ... 20:01 -!- hugoboss24 [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-114-2-108.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:03 < leachbj> it would be nice to have some documentation in french but you might want to talk to macPod ;) 20:03 < hugo_> why ??? 20:04 < leachbj> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=206 20:05 < hugo_> ok 20:06 < hugo_> why ddon't you upgrade your dowumentation ?? 20:06 < leachbj> how do you mean? 20:06 < leachbj> or which documentation? 20:08 < hugo_> the dowumentation on your website is not recent, and to have a good ipodlinux, the users must be search on the forums ... 20:08 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@p54879572.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:09 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@p54879572.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 20:10 < leachbj> sorry hugo_ I missed anything you might have said after my question... 20:10 < hugo_> the dowumentation on your website is not recent, and to have a good ipodlinux, the users must be search on the forums ... 20:11 < leachbj> dpalffy: if you happen to read this, that fix you sent me for ipodeth1394, does it fix a kernel crash? (maybe like the one I just had when I modprobe -r 'ed it while eth1 was still up??) 20:11 -!- zAp` [~n@h160n3fls309o1039.telia.com] has joined #ipodlinux 20:11 < leachbj> hugo_: yeah a few people would like to see better docs but its just not a priority for me... 20:12 < leachbj> at least I updated the installation docs to be recent ;) 20:12 < hugo_> ok 20:12 < hugo_> i must leave the chat... @+ 20:12 < leachbj> ok, cya then 20:12 -!- hugo_ [~hugoboss2@Mix-Dijon-116-3-9.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["@+"] 20:16 < leachbj> hmmm seems 2.6.7 is no better than 2.6.6 :( 20:47 < normalperson> what would the benefits be for uclinux from going to 2.6? better vm/scheduling? 20:48 < normalperson> rmap and O(1) schedulers are both available for 2.4, has anybody tried playing with those in uclinux 2.4.x? 20:49 -!- dpalffy [dpalffy@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has joined #ipodlinux 20:49 < dpalffy> hi Bern! 20:52 < oxygen77> hello leachbj 20:52 * oxygen77 is back (gone 04:44:36) 20:57 -!- zAp` [~n@h160n3fls309o1039.telia.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:58 < courtc> leachbj, 20:58 < courtc> bah nm 20:59 < leachbj> hey dpalffy 21:00 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Cho"] 21:00 < courtc> the reason i was looking a multiple threads i because all(;)) other problems have already been worked out... 21:01 < courtc> although im sure i will happen upon some more... 21:02 < dpalffy> leachbj: just checked the channel log - that patch doesn't solve the unload bug. 21:03 < dpalffy> with certain debug options enabled, the kernel flooded the logs with some error messages about hpsb_write sleeping while interrupts were disabled, the patch fixes this, but i'm not sure we don't need some locking on hpsb_write 21:07 < leachbj> yeah I wasn't too sure about that either. 21:07 < dpalffy> about the unload bug, we should check other modules - unloading was fine before around vanilla 2.6.7 21:08 < leachbj> 2.6.7 firewire seems pretty flakey... specially compared to 2.4.24. 21:09 < leachbj> anyhow I have to take off.. 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