--- Log opened Tue Jun 15 16:48:01 2004 16:48 -!- court [~court@adsl-33-169-17.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 16:49 < WariniMAC> dpalffy 16:49 < WariniMAC> ???? 16:50 < dpalffy> in the latest podzilla i have Extras, Settings, File browser, Quit podzilla and Reboot ipod in the main menu. 16:51 < dpalffy> what do you want to do with the ipod? 16:52 < WariniMAC> I don't have quit podzilla and reboot and all that how can I have it 16:52 < WariniMAC> ???? 16:53 < WariniMAC> well, I installed this "iPod Boot Loader,iPod Linux Kernel and iPod Linux Userland" is ok with that or I need to install other things 16:55 < WariniMAC> ???? 16:55 < dpalffy> i told you to get the latest podzilla from http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/ 16:56 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:57 < WariniMAC> 2.6????? 16:57 < court> ...? 16:58 -!- normalpe1son is now known as normalperson 16:58 < dpalffy> no, it's for the 2.6 kernel series, it won't work on 2.4. And 2.6 doesn't either work right now. 16:58 < court> oh podzilla.2_6 16:59 < WariniMAC> o so i download Podzilla, the one without number 16:59 < court> yup 16:59 < WariniMAC> were do I put that archive 17:00 < dpalffy> it's a binary. replace your podzilla binary on the ipod with this. 17:00 < WariniMAC> ????? 17:00 < court> its at /bin/podzilla 17:02 < WariniMAC> yes I know, they don't have extension 17:03 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has joined #ipodlinux 17:07 < WariniMAC> now podzilla doesn't work 17:07 < WariniMAC> :'( 17:08 < dpalffy> did you set the executable bit? 17:08 < WariniMAC> "/bin/podzilla respawning too fast" 17:08 < WariniMAC> what is executable bit? 17:09 < dpalffy> chmod +x bin/podzilla 17:10 < WariniMAC> thats a terminal commans or what sorry i'm a newby 17:11 < WariniMAC> ?????? 17:11 < court> are you in linux WariniMAC? 17:12 < WariniMAC> no mac os x 17:13 < court> ok i think it'll still work...' 17:14 < court> yes use chmod +x /wherever/podzilla 17:15 < WariniMAC> execution finishd, exiting 17:15 < WariniMAC> init: /bin/podzilla respawing too fast 17:15 < court> hmm? 17:16 * leachbj_ is back (gone 10:52:29) 17:16 < dpalffy> leachbj_: hi! 17:17 < WariniMAC> can enyone help me 17:18 < court> you used 'chmod +x' on the podzilla binary? 17:18 < WariniMAC> i did this wen I were in /Volumes/iPod chmod +x bin/podzilla 17:19 -!- leachbj_ is now known as leachbj 17:19 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 17:19 < leachbj> dpalffy: hows things? 17:19 < leachbj> hchu: are you still 'round? I got your patch before but only just got home. 17:19 < dpalffy> just quickly, i have to go... did you read my mail? 17:20 < leachbj> not yet, just syncing now. 17:20 < court> WariniMAC, hrmm.. is that where you podzilla binary is? 17:20 < dpalffy> i've set up a channel logger: http://rainstorm.org/ipod/stats/ 17:21 < dpalffy> do you have a problem? 17:21 < WariniMAC> yes 17:21 < leachbj> dpalffy: no thats fine, does it create new files or? 17:21 < leachbj> WariniMAC: what is the problem? 17:21 < dpalffy> it should at midnight GMT... 17:22 < leachbj> ok cool, can I link to that on the website? 17:22 < dpalffy> please wait at least 'til the first rotation... But after that, it would be nice :) 17:23 < WariniMAC> the prob is I downloaded the podzilla and replaced tge one in my ipod, now is not working 17:23 < leachbj> ok, I'll look back tomorrow. 17:23 < leachbj> ok, what goes wrong with podzilla? 17:24 < dpalffy> thanks... i spent half the day with building an uclibc for the ipod with profiling working - no success. but now i a have to go. bye 17:24 < WariniMAC> it's not working 17:24 < court> lol 17:24 < leachbj> dpalffy: ok, I'll check your email... 17:24 < WariniMAC> execution finishd, exiting 17:24 < WariniMAC> init: /bin/podzilla respawing too fast 17:24 < dpalffy> thanks. bye 17:25 -!- dpalffy [dpalffy@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has quit ["[BX] Khaled uses BitchX. CTCP TROUT THIS, BITCH!"] 17:25 < leachbj> ok, can you describe how you did the update? 17:32 < WariniMAC> I replaced the podzilla arfchive in the bin folder and then I did chmod +x bin/podzilla 17:32 < leachbj> where did you get the podzilla binary from? 17:33 < WariniMAC> chmod +x bin/podzilla 17:33 < WariniMAC> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/podzilla 17:34 < leachbj> was podzilla working before? 17:36 < WariniMAC> yes 17:37 < leachbj> strange. can you edit the etc/inittab file and remove the podzilla entry. then add /sbin/podzilla as the last line in etc/rc 17:40 < WariniMAC> i'm rebooting 17:42 < WariniMAC> not working 17:43 < WariniMAC> ...... 17:46 < WariniMAC> .... 17:46 < leachbj> "not working" doesn't help me too much. you need to describe what you are seeing. 17:49 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:49 < WariniMAC> command: /bin/podzilla 17:50 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9E098CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:50 < WariniMAC> ++_++ /bin/podzilla: Permision denied 17:50 < WariniMAC> Execution Finished Exiting 17:51 < leachbj> ok, do you see what the problem is? do you know how to fix it? 17:51 < WariniMAC> no 17:51 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has joined #ipodlinux 17:51 < leachbj> ok, reboot the ipod, and put it in disk-mode, plug it in and mount the disk. 17:52 < WariniMAC> done 17:52 < leachbj> ok, now go into the bin directory on your ipod 17:53 < WariniMAC> done 17:53 < leachbj> and type "ls -l podzilla" (without the quotes) 17:54 < WariniMAC> were,I'm using os x 17:54 < leachbj> open a terminal, and change into that directory 17:54 < leachbj> then run the ls -l command 17:54 < WariniMAC> ok 17:54 < WariniMAC> done 17:55 < leachbj> what does it say? 17:55 < WariniMAC> -rwxr-xr-x 1 alfredog admin 316648 3 Apr 13:08 podzilla 17:56 < leachbj> type "pwd" 17:56 < WariniMAC> done 17:58 < leachbj> and what did it say? 17:58 < WariniMAC> says /Volumes/iPod/bin 17:59 < WariniMAC> r u there 18:00 < leachbj> patience is a virtue. 18:01 < court> :) 18:01 < WariniMAC> sorry 18:01 < leachbj> hchu: 71 and 73 seconds :( 18:02 < leachbj> WariniMAC: what does it say if you do "ls -l busybox" 18:02 < WariniMAC> -rwxr-xr-x 1 alfredog admin 217240 3 Apr 11:32 busybox 18:04 < leachbj> what about "file podzilla busybox" 18:04 < WariniMAC> podzilla: BFLT executable - version 4 ram 18:04 < WariniMAC> busybox: BFLT executable - version 4 gotpic 18:07 < leachbj> Sorr WariniMac, I'm at a bit of a loss! it all looks ok so I don't understand why it doesnt work. 18:07 < WariniMAC> are u a linux or mac user 18:07 < leachbj> linux 18:09 < leachbj> I can only suggest you try a different podzilla version... I want to update the one online but sf.net ssh is down at the moment. 18:09 < court> hmm podzilla 3 april ? 18:09 < court> err thats not right 18:10 < court> WariniMAC, try "ls ../" 18:11 < leachbj> WariniMAC: actually that podzilla is _not_ the one from http://ipodlinux.sf.net/download/beta/podzilla 18:11 < WariniMAC> look first I installed iPod Boot Loader,iPod Linux Kernel and iPod Linux Userland, but I didn't have any option like sleep or restart or boot in mac, nothing, so i downloaded the new podzilla (not podzilla 2.6) and all this started 18:12 < leachbj> sure, but something during that update went wrong. since the 6th June the podzilla on sf.net is 401392 bytes. 18:13 < leachbj> so, perhaps you should download the one from the website, put it in that directory you were just looking at. 18:14 < WariniMAC> I downloaded that one 18:15 < WariniMAC> thats the one giving me probs 18:15 < court> i think it is neccesary to find the one you downloaded.. because thats not it... 18:15 < leachbj> -rw-r--r-- 1 leachbj users 401392 Jun 15 20:07 /home/leachbj/podzilla 18:15 < WariniMAC> I downloaded this one 18:15 < WariniMAC> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/podzilla 18:15 < leachbj> that is the one that is currently in download/beta/podzilla 18:16 < WariniMAC> ??????? 18:17 < WariniMAC> I don't understand u 18:17 < leachbj> just for fun, download it again and copy it again into /Volumes/iPod/bin 18:17 < WariniMAC> k 18:17 < court> ;) 18:19 < WariniMAC> why the old podzilla file it has an icon that says EXEC and the new one nothing, just a white paper sheet 18:19 < leachbj> any mac users there? I have no idea sorry. 18:20 < WariniMAC> ok 18:20 < court> not executable maybe... 18:20 < court> try that chmod +x podzilla command 18:25 < WariniMAC> i'm in that 18:25 < court> and "that" is? 18:27 < WariniMAC> sorry I'm working in chmod 18:28 < court> ahh 18:28 < tlg> leachbj: I'm on linux 18:28 < leachbj> tlg: ok 18:29 < tlg> leachbj: sorry dind't get the question right ;) 18:29 < tlg> I thought you said smthg like "only mac users here" 18:30 < leachbj> tlg: ah ok ;) 18:30 < court> lol 18:30 * tlg shouldn't trust fast reading !!!!! 18:33 < WariniMAC> hey I'll make a factory reset And i'll reinstall all the linux, can anyone help me 18:33 < court> AHH, why would you do that? 18:34 < court> this isnt windows, format isnt the only solution 18:34 < WariniMAC> becuase it doesn't work 18:35 < court> try one thing first... 18:35 < WariniMAC> ok 18:35 < court> check /Volumes/ipod/ for a podzilla binary.. 18:37 < WariniMAC> this is the only been I found with search, i use mac os x 18:37 < WariniMAC> uclinux-2.4.24-ipod0.bin 18:37 < WariniMAC> not been *bin 18:38 < leachbj> WariniMAC: open up a terminal and use these commands 18:38 < WariniMAC> k 18:38 < leachbj> cd /Volumes/ipod 18:38 < WariniMAC> I love unix or linux windows sucks 18:38 < leachbj> find . -name podzilla -ls 18:39 < leachbj> tell me what the output from find is 18:39 < WariniMAC> 707370 624 -rwxr-xr-x 1 alfredog admin 316648 Apr 3 13:08 ./sbin/podzilla 18:40 < leachbj> cd sbin 18:40 < WariniMAC> ok 18:40 < WariniMAC> done 18:40 < leachbj> wget http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/podzilla 18:41 < WariniMAC> I have downloaded that 18:41 < court> WariniMAC, trust him.. just do it 18:42 < leachbj> I have just (as of 2 seconds ago) updated it with a version that includes tetris ;) 18:42 < WariniMAC> ok I dowloaded 18:42 < leachbj> ls -l podzilla 18:42 < WariniMAC> -rwxr-xr-x 1 alfredog admin 316648 3 Apr 13:08 podzilla 18:43 < leachbj> wget http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/download/beta/podzilla 18:43 < leachbj> (that output is wrong, you haven't downloaded it correctly) 18:43 < WariniMAC> ok 18:44 < WariniMAC> wget: command not found 18:44 < leachbj> can someone else try out the tetris version I just uploaded? 18:44 < court> yup 18:44 < court> im on it 18:44 < leachbj> WariniMAC: can you download it with a browser and save it to /Volumes/ipod/sbin/podzilla 18:44 < WariniMAC> yes I've done that like 6 times 18:45 < leachbj> maybe it will work the 7th time then ;) 18:45 < WariniMAC> ok 18:45 < leachbj> lucky 7 and all that.... 18:46 < WariniMAC> I think this is gonna be my lucky seven 18:47 < WariniMAC> ok is in my ipod 18:48 < leachbj> so, what does "ls -l podzilla" show now? 18:48 < WariniMAC> new version, it sais 15 june 18:48 < WariniMAC> -rwxr-xr-x 1 alfredog admin 316648 3 Apr 13:08 podzilla 18:48 < WariniMAC> in the web page says 18:48 < WariniMAC> 15-Jun-2004 11:40 401k 18:49 < leachbj> so you still don't have it on your ipod (that says 3rd Apr) 18:51 < WariniMAC> i'm downloading it direcly to my ipod 18:52 < leachbj> ok 18:52 < court> rm podzilla 18:52 < court> then download again 18:52 < court> YES again 18:53 < court> my favorite is 8 18:55 < court> leachbj, podzilla works great! 18:56 < WariniMAC> aaaaaaa, not working, let me reinstall linux in my ipod, it won't take long, please whait me 18:56 < leachbj> cool, I change the wheel sensitivity a little, does it feel ok? 18:57 < court> feels fine 18:58 < leachbj> the actual "settings->wheel debounce" should work now 18:58 < court> nice 18:58 < WariniMAC> factory reset 18:58 < WariniMAC> done 18:58 < leachbj> well it worked before, but there was also a counter which ignored 2 out of three events. 19:00 < court> the debounce slider moves kinda slow 19:00 < leachbj> yeah I'm just looking at that. 19:02 < court> is the tetris source in cvs? 19:02 < leachbj> not yet. 19:03 < WariniMAC> I'll restart my comp 19:04 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.122] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:04 < leachbj> its based on an http://sf.net/projects/bluecube though. 19:06 < court> the piece rotation is a wee bit to fast for me.. 19:07 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.122] has joined #ipodlinux 19:08 < WariniMAC> back 19:09 < WariniMAC> r u there guys 19:09 < court> im hiding ;) 19:10 < WariniMAC> lol 19:10 < leachbj> sure (I'm half watching the football), have you re-installed? 19:10 < WariniMAC> i'm on that 19:13 < WariniMAC> why wen I whrite mount it apears /dev/disk1s3 on /Volumes/"""iPod 1 """(local, nodev, nosuid, journaled) why iPod 1 if it's named iPod 19:13 < WariniMAC> ??? 19:14 < leachbj> what do you see if you type "ls /Volumes" 19:14 < oxygen77> gooooooooooooooal 19:15 < leachbj> oops 19:15 < WariniMAC> Macintosh HD iPod iPod 1 19:15 < court> soccer then? 19:16 < leachbj> I think you need to rename your iPod to something without spaces and quotes so its a little easier to deal with in the terminal 19:18 < leachbj> court: european championships, germany vs netherlands 1-0 19:23 < WariniMAC> well the commands for installing have to use ipod or myipod 19:23 < WariniMAC> ~ alfredoguarini$ ls /Volumes 19:23 < WariniMAC> Macintosh HD iPod myipod 19:24 < WariniMAC> ????? 19:24 -!- tlg [~tlg@21-101.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be] has quit ["Client exiting"] 19:24 < leachbj> what does mount say? 19:25 < WariniMAC> 19:25 < WariniMAC> ~ alfredoguarini$ mount 19:25 < WariniMAC> devfs on /dev (local) 19:25 < WariniMAC> fdesc on /dev (union) 19:25 < WariniMAC> on /.vol 19:25 < WariniMAC> automount -nsl [334] on /Network (automounted) 19:25 < WariniMAC> automount -fstab [339] on /automount/Servers (automounted) 19:25 < WariniMAC> automount -static [339] on /automount/static (automounted) 19:25 < WariniMAC> ======= /dev/disk1s3 on /Volumes/myipod (local, nodev, nosuid, journaled) 19:25 < WariniMAC> ========/dev/disk0s3 on / (local, journaled) 19:26 < leachbj> ok, good. so now just follow the normal installation instructions, use /Volumes/myipod and /dev/disk1... 19:31 < court> 1/2 time! 19:32 -!- tlg [~tlg@21-101.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be] has joined #ipodlinux 19:32 < tlg> leachbj: latest podzilla doesn't work for me ... 19:33 < court> leachbj, how hard would it be to imlement suspend or standby? 19:33 < tlg> I get smthg that looks like a kernel panic 19:33 < tlg> it is hard to see, it goes too fast ... 19:34 < leachbj> brb 19:36 < tlg> actually, it might be a file corruption on my iPod ... 19:37 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9FFA5E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:37 < court> tlg, strange i dont think updating podzilla is going to cause a kernel panic... 19:43 < leachbj> tlg: yeah that seems a little weird... maybe remove podzilla from inittab and see if the ipod boots ok. 19:43 < tlg> it does 19:43 < tlg> it isn't a kernel panic finally 19:43 < tlg> it only says it is a bad magic smthg format 19:43 < leachbj> court: I'm not 100% sure. the ipod stuff shouldnt be too hard, I've seen code that puts it to sleep, but I'm not sure how hard it is to integrate into the kernel 19:43 < tlg> I might have probelems with the file system 19:44 < leachbj> could be... what is the file size on the podzilla? maybe a corrupt download... 19:45 < leachbj> court: I had though I would try and implement it in 2.6 but since 2.6 is not working maybe I need to rethink that. 19:45 < tlg> md5sum podzilla 19:45 < tlg> 0fa413bb4b74b951ab1648f373b3322b podzilla 19:45 < tlg> but after two or 3 runs on the iPod the file get corrupted ... 19:45 < _246tNt_> Is there a way to have a "debug console", like console over firewire ? 19:46 < WariniMAC> were do I have to put the make_fw 19:46 < WariniMAC> ???? 19:46 < leachbj> tlg: same as I get 19:47 < WariniMAC> ???? 19:47 < leachbj> _246tNt_: possibly, but you would have to implement some firewire protocol to do it... 19:47 < leachbj> WariniMAC: patience is still a virtue. 19:48 < court> lol 19:48 < tlg> so download is fine ... I don't why but the fs tends to get very dirty after a while, may be the hfs+ drivers aren't that good 19:48 < WariniMAC> lol 19:48 < court> WariniMAC, do you mean to where do you direct the make_fw? 19:49 < leachbj> tlg: maybe we need a shutdown script to properly remount as readonly... 19:49 < tlg> probably 19:49 < leachbj> WariniMAC: what step are you at in the installation guide? 19:50 < tlg> *reboot time 19:50 < WariniMAC> ~ alfredoguarini$ make_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 ipod_os_partition_backup 19:50 < WariniMAC> -bash: make_fw: command not found 19:50 -!- tlg [~tlg@21-101.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be] has quit ["Client exiting"] 19:51 < court> try ./make_fw 19:51 < WariniMAC> thanks 19:56 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9FFA5E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:59 < leachbj> hey court, I just updated the podzilla binary again. this time the wheel speed is a integer 1-10, 1 means every kernel scroll wheel event goes through, 10 means only every tenth... 20:00 < court> k, i'll check it out 20:02 < court> what was it before? 20:05 < court> oooh i like it... 20:06 < court> tetris is now bluecube... 20:06 < leachbj> before it had a mod 3 counter and the debounce setting was the number of milliseconds ... 20:06 < leachbj> its based on http://sf.net/projects/bluecube 20:06 < court> you might want to make it like 1-15 20:07 < court> k 20:07 < court> cause i like it at 10 20:07 < leachbj> ok, I'll crank it up 20:08 < WariniMAC> ok 20:09 < WariniMAC> i finished installing linux for ipod 20:09 < leachbj> great, so does it boot properly? 20:10 < WariniMAC> yes but I don't have any option difference with mac version 20:10 < WariniMAC> I don't have sleep or reboot 20:10 < WariniMAC> ... 20:10 < leachbj> sure, that is only in the beta version 20:10 < WariniMAC> ok so now I have to update to that version 20:11 < WariniMAC> ??? 20:11 < WariniMAC> podzilla or podzilla.2_6 ?????? 20:12 < leachbj> exactly, so download the podzilla binary from the beta directory (podzilla, not the .2_6 thing) and copy it to /Volumes/myipod/sbin 20:13 < _246tNt_> leachbj: I'm just havin a look at the hardware doc on the site but there is not much details, is there some more elsewhere ? 20:14 < WariniMAC> ok now whats the command to make it exec 20:14 < leachbj> it should be already. 20:14 < leachbj> ls -l /Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla 20:15 < WariniMAC> -rw-r--r-- 1 alfredog unknown 410552 15 Jun 15:56 /Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla 20:15 < court> leachbj, if you are going to stick with bluecube are you going to change the header while in the game? you know for consistancy.. 20:15 < leachbj> ok "chmod +x /Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla" 20:16 < court> hey it says 15 Jun... yay 20:16 < leachbj> court: ah thanks ;) 20:16 < WariniMAC> -rwxr-xr-x 1 alfredog unknown 410552 15 Jun 15:56 /Volumes/myipod/sbin/podzilla 20:16 < WariniMAC> it's ok 20:16 < court> WariniMAC, perfect! 20:16 < WariniMAC> ok 20:16 < WariniMAC> i'll reboot my ipod 20:18 < WariniMAC> woooohoooooooooo, perfect thanks dudes, 20:20 < court> hey, you got it.. 20:20 < WariniMAC> hey the "new tetris" thats why there is a "new" podzilla (15 jun) 20:21 < WariniMAC> ???? 20:22 < leachbj> yes I updated that beta just tonight and it includes the tetris port 20:22 < court> leachbj, would it be easy for podzilla to determine which gen it is running on? 20:23 < leachbj> sure, its in /proc/cpuinfo (Revision : 20000) a 2g 20:24 < court> because the "Voice Record" feature on my 1g makes me wanna cry 20:24 < WariniMAC> do you know what is the ipod power (mhz) 20:24 < court> apple 66mhz linux 75mhz 20:24 < leachbj> court: yeah I should do something about that. 20:25 < WariniMAC> why the difference, you overclocked it 20:25 < court> its underclocked 20:25 < leachbj> the cpu speed is variable 20:25 < WariniMAC> well but the real one 20:26 < WariniMAC> because I don't wanna burn my ipod 20:26 < leachbj> its not overclocked, it is fine ;) I've been running it for nearly 2 years and my ipod is still working fine... 20:26 < WariniMAC> how do i sleep my ipod 20:27 < court> boot into apple firmware ;) 20:27 < WariniMAC> because in the forum I saw a video of someone that had a sleep option 20:28 < leachbj> the current non-beta version (e.g. the first one you installed) has all sorts of menu items, most of them do nothing! 20:29 < WariniMAC> no but in the video he uses it and it works 20:29 < WariniMAC> ... 20:30 < court> which video? 20:30 < leachbj> ok, I just uploaded another version of podzilla. this one has the game name fixed and sensitivity is 1-20 20:30 < WariniMAC> ok 20:30 < leachbj> WariniMAC: trust me there is _no_ sleep function under ipodlinux, there never has been and there probably wont be until I implement it. 20:31 < WariniMAC> why " and there probably wont " 20:31 < WariniMAC> o ok 20:31 < court> unless of course you imlement it first WariniMAC ;) 20:32 < WariniMAC> I only know programing on java and in a lenguage I hate (but I needed to learn it for a course of the university) c# 20:34 < court> you mean you dont hate java? 20:34 < WariniMAC> not as much as I hate C# by microsoft fuckers 20:34 < court> lol 20:35 < WariniMAC> I wanna learn c++ thats a good lenguage 20:35 < leachbj> WariniMAC: maybe a good book on unix would be helpful too ;) 20:35 < WariniMAC> whats your favorite leng 20:36 < court> c 20:36 < WariniMAC> yes absolutly ;O) 20:36 < leachbj> english, or en_AU to be precise ;) 20:37 < WariniMAC> what do u mean 20:37 < court> HA 20:37 < court> en_US here 20:38 < WariniMAC> sorry about my english I'm a spanish guy 20:38 < WariniMAC> ;) 20:38 -!- tlg [~tlg@21-101.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be] has joined #ipodlinux 20:38 < tlg> leachbj: a new fs helped ... 20:38 < WariniMAC> does the battery meter work 20:39 < leachbj> no 20:39 < court> only if your battery is fully charged 20:39 < leachbj> tlg: cool... (i just updated the beta) 20:39 < WariniMAC> lol 20:39 < tlg> leachbj: yes I've seen it, _246tNt_ told me, it works a lot better for tetris ;) 20:40 < leachbj> cool 20:40 < WariniMAC> leachbj: you are doing a really good work congrats 20:40 < leachbj> thanks 20:41 < tlg> one of my friend told me that he felt it was more natural to move the bricks with the wheel 20:41 < WariniMAC> hey court cheq this and leachbj too http://www.espydesigns.com/stuff/iPod.wmv 20:41 < court> ooohh "Wheel Sensitivity" classy 20:41 < leachbj> thats actually what I was wondering... 20:42 < WariniMAC> the video with the sleep option, I think it's that one 20:43 < WariniMAC> let me check 20:43 < WariniMAC> 56% dloaded 20:43 < leachbj> hey its got music on there now... (I think I looked at this one the other day) 20:44 < court> no SLeep 20:44 < leachbj> yeah he sleeps the ipod at the end of the demo, but that is using the Apple firmware not podzilla 20:45 < WariniMAC> o ok 20:45 < court> oh i see 20:45 < court> final score 1:1... bummer 20:45 < WariniMAC> hey 20:45 < WariniMAC> don't do that I'm on the 15:48 mins 20:46 < WariniMAC> of the game 20:46 < leachbj> yeah, too bad they dont go to first blood after that, I think there would have been a result in the next 5 mins... or a punchup ;) 20:46 < court> lol.. sorry WariniMAC 20:46 < WariniMAC> no prob 20:48 -!- matthis-pod [~mat@villeurbanne-4-82-224-82-21.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 20:49 < court> hey matthis 20:49 < matthis-pod> Hello - made my way to irc today ;) 20:49 < court> nice game btw 20:49 < leachbj> hey matthis-pod ;) good work on the port! 20:50 < matthis-pod> cheers, nice that the wheel-debounce works now 20:50 < tlg> yeah thx alot matthis-pod 20:50 < matthis-pod> one more thing, I should talk to the author of bluecube? 20:50 < WariniMAC> is there any way you make apple and linux contrast the same beacause when I use the apple one i choose a specific contrast and wen I go to linux i see everything black 20:51 < tlg> matthis-pod: did you try to use the wheel to move the bricks instead of trotating them ? 20:51 < matthis-pod> tlg- yes, I thought about it, it might be better 20:51 < leachbj> matthis-pod, I was going to email him and see what he thought. from the quick look I did it seems that it might be possible to do a generic microwindows port without much work. 20:52 < leachbj> (or at least make most of it normal microwindows) 20:52 < leachbj> WariniMAC: there is a contrast setting in linux 20:52 < matthis-pod> tlg- its very easy to change, so I was waiting to hear if people liked it one way or the other 20:53 < WariniMAC> leachbj: I know there is but is difficult to get to it when u can't read enything 20:54 < matthis-pod> tlg- I guess it would be better to move with the wheel and rotate with the central button since the rotation is only one way anyway 20:54 < leachbj> sure its a bit tricky ;)... just use the clicker... one click down for settings menu, then one click down for contrast, then left to reduce the contrast 20:54 < WariniMAC> matthis-po: I think the same 20:54 < court> matthis-pod, on 1g's wheel to move would be easier because the center button rotates also... 20:55 < court> throwing off any sort of precision 20:55 < WariniMAC> is there any way you adjust that so it's similar to the apple one 20:55 < leachbj> matthis-pod and play/pause for drop (on the 1g/2g that is at the bottom of the scroll wheel) 20:55 < leachbj> WariniMAC: you can only adjust it with that menu item. 20:56 < matthis-pod> -tlg-leachbj: but if play is for drop, what will be for down? 20:56 < matthis-pod> -tlg-leachbj: or maybe we don't need down :) 20:56 < WariniMAC> I know but can u fix that 20:57 < matthis-pod> WariniMAC: strangely some people don't have contrast problems... I never had any 20:57 < leachbj> maybe one day... it works fine with the defaults on my 2g and 3g ipods though ;) 20:58 < WariniMAC> yes I have a 3g and the default after the las apple update makes it darker, so if I go to linux is even darker 20:59 < leachbj> matthis-pod: I didnt realise there was a move down ;) 21:00 < court> matthis-pod, me either... 21:01 < WariniMAC> matthis-po: I think the same about the wheel and central button in the game 21:01 < tlg> matthis-pod: move down isn't really necessary 21:02 < tlg> and plys feels right fro a drop down 21:02 < tlg> *play 21:02 < matthis-pod> ok - then we should go for \r=rotate d=drop l and r =move 21:02 < leachbj> its only really ever used when you need to move a piece around another that sticks out... 21:02 < tlg> leachbj: yes 21:02 < tlg> and when you are in a hurry ;) 21:03 < matthis-pod> ;) 21:03 < leachbj> as long as nothing is sticking out you can just drop... 21:03 < matthis-pod> I'm sending a mail to the bluecube author to check he's ok 21:04 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-18-34.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:04 < tlg> matthis-pod: and I think that it is easier to play without moving the fingers with the new config 21:04 < court> it is gpl code anyway... is it not? 21:05 < matthis-pod> yes it is, so should I just ignore him? 21:05 < tlg> matthis-pod: no I don't think so ;), may be you could add some intro with credits for him and you 21:05 < court> yes tell him to bugger off ;) 21:06 < matthis-pod> ;) Ok, I'll just tell him its done 21:06 < matthis-pod> In the code I haven't change his original line with credits for him 21:07 < leachbj> no, I'm sure it will be fine. the thing is you actually need to create a changelog... 21:07 < tlg> matthis-pod: I meant a graphical intro 21:07 < matthis-pod> oooh, these are so anoying when you just want to play!! 21:07 < leachbj> haha ;) 21:08 < leachbj> yeah I was thinking of adding a proper About, we can put that there ;) 21:10 < matthis-pod> yeah would be the best option so that it doesn't slow down ipod use elsewhere 21:11 < tlg> may be there should be some credit entry in the extra menu, like the apple firmware 21:11 < tlg> so every credits can be put in one whole file and seen in one entry 21:13 < WariniMAC> but what happened with the wheel to move and center to rotate, is that going to change or not 21:13 < court> WariniMAC, you just need to chill 21:14 < WariniMAC> what??? chill??? remmember I'm a spanish guy 21:14 < matthis-pod> Warimac: I guess it will probably change, the tetris code is in cvs now (or is it? ;) so anyone can change it 21:15 < matthis-pod> so it will probably change if its the better way 21:15 < leachbj> lol 21:15 < court> um... i dont think it is yet 21:15 < WariniMAC> what is cvs 21:15 < leachbj> not in cvs just yet... sorry... 21:15 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-18-34.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 21:16 < matthis-pod> cvs is where the latest code is held for a project 21:16 < matthis-pod> something like that... 21:16 < WariniMAC> ok 21:16 < WariniMAC> hey what is the ipod screen res 21:16 < leachbj> 160x128 21:17 < WariniMAC> and also do i need to change an image to black and white or is it done automat 21:18 < leachbj> you need to use a graphics program to change the image to a 4 color image (also invert the colors so black is white and white is black ;) ) 21:19 < WariniMAC> ok 21:19 < matthis-pod> speaking of colors, can the greys of microwindows be used in programs? 21:19 < WariniMAC> and b&w 1bit (2 colors black and white) 21:19 < WariniMAC> what is microwindows 21:19 < leachbj> matthis-pod: sure 21:20 < matthis-pod> ok cool 21:20 < WariniMAC> atthis-po: what is microwindows 21:21 < leachbj> WariniMAC: patience probably will always be a virtue... 21:21 < court> leachbj, greys, how? 21:21 < leachbj> anyhow it is the GUI library that we use on the iPod.. www.microwindows.org 21:21 < leachbj> court: not sure exactly, check the definition of BLACK and WHITE... 21:21 < matthis-pod> Warinimac: microwindows is an open source project aimed at bringing graphical windowing environments to smaller devices and platforms 21:22 < matthis-pod> there are lots of greys is nxcolors.h like GR_COLOR_GREY75 ,etc 21:23 < matthis-pod> i have never tried it though 21:23 < WariniMAC> looks nice, can be used on ipod 21:26 < matthis-pod> Does anyone have news from Efram? Haven't heard anything recently so I wondered if he's ok 21:26 < leachbj> matthis-pod: the four colors should be WHITE, LTGRAY and GRAY, BLACK 21:27 < leachbj> matthis-pod: not me, but he's been lurking on here for a bit. 21:27 < matthis-pod> ok 21:27 < matthis-pod> thanx for the colors too 21:28 < court> yea ditto 21:28 < matthis-pod> I guess my next thing will be to work on a japanese dictionary... I had hesitated between buying an ipod and a pocket dictionary last year... went for the ipod so now I have to make up for it ;) 21:28 < leachbj> fair enough ;) 21:29 < court> that'll be usefull for pong ;) (not) 21:29 < matthis-pod> lol 21:29 < leachbj> although, you wouldn't have been able to play tetris on the dictionary either ! 21:29 < court> heh 21:29 < matthis-pod> hehe 21:29 < matthis-pod> anyway, nice talking live to all, I'm off to bed 21:29 < matthis-pod> bye 21:29 < leachbj> night 21:30 < court> bye 21:30 < tlg> yeah me too 21:30 < tlg> by all 21:30 < leachbj> night 21:30 < court> brb 21:30 -!- matthis-pod [~mat@villeurbanne-4-82-224-82-21.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4"] 21:30 -!- tlg [~tlg@21-101.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be] has quit ["Client exiting"] 21:48 -!- court_ [~court@adsl-33-182-121.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 21:48 -!- court [~court@adsl-33-169-17.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:48 < WariniMAC> court 21:51 < WariniMAC> anyone there 21:51 < leachbj> all gone 21:51 < WariniMAC> hey how can I change the boot logo 21:51 < WariniMAC> if it's possible 21:52 < leachbj> check the forums 21:52 < WariniMAC> hey does the ipod charge if it's conected when i'm using linux 21:53 < leachbj> yes 21:53 < WariniMAC> ok 21:54 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:55 < WariniMAC> what kind of image is the logo 21:57 < leachbj> its a special format used by the bootloader.. 21:57 < WariniMAC> o so making images it's imposible 21:57 < leachbj> did you read the forum message about it? 21:58 < WariniMAC> this one 21:58 < WariniMAC> I'd like to do some work on the bootloader so people could change the boot image more easily but I don't think I'll get to it anytime soon. 21:58 < leachbj> just search for bootloader and read those articles, there is one that says how you can convert an image. 22:01 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@adsl-64-175-244-240.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 22:03 < WariniMAC> uses xpm 22:20 -!- OoSLink [~OoTLink@adsl-64-175-244-53.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:28 < WariniMAC> dude r u there 22:28 < WariniMAC> ????? 22:29 < leachbj> yup 22:31 < WariniMAC> where in my ipod is the tux image 22:33 < leachbj> its inside the bootloader binary 22:34 < OoTLink> essentially it's in nasty C code/hex code :) 22:44 < WariniMAC> I have to edit the loader.bin????? to change the image 22:44 < WariniMAC> ???? 22:46 < leachbj> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=95 22:48 < WariniMAC> so there is no way to change it without having to redoing all the installation 22:49 < leachbj> you just have to do the kernel installation part again. 22:49 < leachbj> you create a new loader.bin, then just do the make_fw to create a new firmware image from it, then dd it in. 22:55 < WariniMAC> ok 22:56 < WariniMAC> wich kind of software can i use to see the loader.bin file 22:59 < leachbj> I don't know what you mean... 22:59 < leachbj> sorry I have to go. 22:59 < leachbj> night all 22:59 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAAE18.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 22:59 < WariniMAC> noght 22:59 < WariniMAC> night 23:03 < WariniMAC> anyone there 23:21 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.122] has quit ["Quit"] 23:26 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.122] has joined #ipodlinux 23:26 < WariniMAC> hi 23:26 < WariniMAC> anyone there 23:43 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 23:43 -!- court_ [~court@adsl-33-182-121.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:51 -!- court_ [~court@68.215.235.128] has joined #ipodlinux 23:51 < WariniMAC> hi court 00:31 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.122] has quit ["Quit"] 00:34 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:06 -!- court [~court@adsl-217-12-177.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:23 -!- court_ [~court@68.215.235.128] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:58 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC9C43EB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 -!- sneakerelph [~tyler@ACC06833.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:06 < sneakerelph> hello 02:07 -!- sneakerelph [~tyler@ACC06833.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:08 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC06833.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:09 < sneakerelph> hellooooooo 02:09 < sneakerelph> everytime i get on here, theres a bunch of people on 02:09 < sneakerelph> but noone every talks 02:09 < macPod> what do you need? 02:09 < sneakerelph> is MAD included with the windows installer? 02:10 < macPod> I am not sure 02:10 < macPod> doubt it 02:10 < sneakerelph> because i use the intel decoder 02:10 < sneakerelph> it sounds really bad 02:10 < sneakerelph> any idea on how i can get it then? 02:10 < macPod> are your mp3's over 128kbps? 02:10 < sneakerelph> 192 kbps 02:10 < sneakerelph> is that bad? 02:11 < macPod> Yea, that will make them sound chopppy 02:11 < sneakerelph> ah 02:11 < sneakerelph> i see the problem 02:11 < macPod> bring them down to 128k and they will play properly 02:11 < sneakerelph> ok 02:11 < macPod> We have not utilized the second processor in the ipod so music playing is still rough 02:11 < sneakerelph> what about volume though? is that just not included since its not complete yet? 02:11 < sneakerelph> oh ok 02:11 < sneakerelph> i've been reading this on the forums 02:14 < sneakerelph> im in the process of getting my ipod working under fedora core 02:14 < macPod> yup 02:14 < sneakerelph> it shows up in /proc/scsi/scsi 02:15 < sneakerelph> but i get an error when mounting /dev/sda 02:15 < sneakerelph> not a valid block device 02:15 < macPod> I use OS X so the setup is entirely different, otherwise I could help you with that issue 02:15 < sneakerelph> darn 02:15 < sneakerelph> im recompiling my kernel 02:15 < macPod> ask BlindSpy when he comes in 02:15 < sneakerelph> ok 02:15 < macPod> he uses Gentoo 02:15 < sneakerelph> i want OS X 02:16 < sneakerelph> but im too cheap 02:16 < macPod> It is very good 02:16 < sneakerelph> i know... 02:16 < sneakerelph> i used it at my aunts house 02:16 < sneakerelph> i love it 02:16 < sneakerelph> my KDE is rigged to look as close to OS X as possible 02:16 < sneakerelph> i even got a dock with that cool zoom effect 02:18 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@adsl-64-175-244-240.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:19 < sneakerelph> ok, time to test my newly recompiled kernel 02:19 < sneakerelph> later 02:19 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC06833.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:19 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@adsl-64-175-244-240.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:22 -!- court [~court@adsl-217-12-177.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:24 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 02:24 < macPod> hey BlindSpy 02:24 < BlindSpy> hey man 02:24 < BlindSpy> hey do you read slashdot? 02:25 < macPod> nope, 02:25 < macPod> did they talk about me? 02:25 < BlindSpy> you wont _believe_ one of the latests posts they had 02:25 < BlindSpy> ha no - http://www.slashdot.org 02:25 < macPod> my interest has been depreciated already 02:25 < BlindSpy> lmao 02:26 < macPod> I swear if you are talking about that Java vs. c++ thing... 02:26 < BlindSpy> hahahahaha 02:26 < BlindSpy> see it? 02:26 < macPod> Bah, well I never said c++ was faster 02:26 < macPod> just c 02:26 < BlindSpy> honestly i dont really care... i just thought the irony of them posting right after we talked about it 02:26 < macPod> actually I did say c++ 02:27 < macPod> but that was back in the day 02:27 < macPod> what are we on java versio 2? 02:27 < BlindSpy> beats me 02:28 < BlindSpy> looks like 1.4 02:28 < BlindSpy> thats the sdk tho 02:29 < normalperson> I hope nobody gets any ideas about writing Podzilla in Java :) 02:30 < macPod> bleh 02:30 < macPod> That's not something to joke about sir 02:33 < BlindSpy> that couldnt happen 02:33 < BlindSpy> i dont think the iPod has the processing power to run a JVM 02:34 * macPod observes project moving to java and leaves 02:34 < BlindSpy> lmao 02:34 < BlindSpy> i just support java because thats what i know 02:34 < BlindSpy> you must understand 02:34 < macPod> Did you see the latest harry potter? 02:35 < BlindSpy> no 02:35 < BlindSpy> i want to 02:35 < normalperson> I only know C, Perl, and shell 02:35 < macPod> I am not much of a harry potter book reader, but I will have to say that is one of the better movies I have seen in quite a while 02:35 < normalperson> I haven't seen any of the Harry Potter movies nor read the books 02:36 < macPod> c, c++, perl, html, xml, cocoa, object-c, hypercard, php 02:36 < BlindSpy> i read some of the books and the movies SUCK compaired to the books 02:36 < macPod> and... jark 02:36 < macPod> I actually did read the first book, it was good 02:37 < macPod> even though the language used in the book is very simple 02:37 < BlindSpy> i know C++, html, xml, php, java.... does css count =) 02:37 < macPod> I think that is the reason it is so popular 02:37 < macPod> I knows css 02:37 < macPod> yes it does ^^ 02:37 < BlindSpy> simple words, complex story 02:37 < BlindSpy> css really isnt a language but it looks like we are counting markup too 02:37 < macPod> Well that is a sign of a good writer isn't it? 02:37 < BlindSpy> you know a lot of stuff i've never heard of =) 02:37 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.122] has joined #ipodlinux 02:38 < BlindSpy> macPod: yup 02:38 < WariniMAC> hi 02:38 < WariniMAC> someone there 02:38 < BlindSpy> hello 02:38 < WariniMAC> hi 02:38 < WariniMAC> macPod is here 02:38 < BlindSpy> we are not providing support right now =), just chatting 02:38 < normalperson> hi 02:39 < WariniMAC> thats ok, my linux it's working great 02:39 < BlindSpy> anyway - the majority of what i do now is PHP (CSS and HTML) 02:39 < BlindSpy> ha thats good 02:39 < macPod> I gotta do a html site now... 02:39 < BlindSpy> but durring school i did lots of basic java stuff (cause thats the class i was in) 02:39 < BlindSpy> pure html? 02:40 < macPod> yea, and css 02:40 < WariniMAC> I was withhi macPod remmember me 02:40 < macPod> yes... 02:40 < BlindSpy> no php or anything?! 02:40 < macPod> nope 02:40 < WariniMAC> how are u 02:40 < macPod> recovering 02:40 < WariniMAC> why 02:40 < macPod> drug overdose 02:40 < BlindSpy> to me, writing a site in pure html is like writing a GUI and having no code to go with it (which would be the PHP) 02:41 < macPod> the website is for archival purposes, It has to be in a portfolio so it cannot have any goodies 02:41 < WariniMAC> I was talking to leachbj 02:41 < WariniMAC> today he helped me and I resolved all my proibs 02:41 < WariniMAC> probs now is all ok 02:41 -!- court [~court@adsl-19-32-74.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 < BlindSpy> keep in mind that leach is very busy and you dont wanna suck too much outa him =) 02:43 < WariniMAC> I know I also talked to him about the soccer game and things like that he is a very good guy 02:43 < macPod> the olson twins turned 18 this weekend! 02:44 < BlindSpy> haha yup 02:44 < macPod> Now I can draw them in erotic situations 02:44 < BlindSpy> its a great day for all men! 02:44 < BlindSpy> lmao 02:44 < macPod> and put it on my ipod 02:44 < BlindSpy> YES! 02:44 < BlindSpy> as a boot screen 02:44 < BlindSpy> awesome! 02:44 < WariniMAC> lol 02:44 < BlindSpy> hehe anyway - i went to the mac store and played on a mac once... it felt like a weird linux distro 02:44 < BlindSpy> i like it 02:45 < WariniMAC> anyway macpod can i ask u only a question, what prog can i use to edit a .bin 02:45 < BlindSpy> y do you wanna edit a bin? 02:45 < BlindSpy> its already compiled 02:46 < WariniMAC> because y need to edit the loader.bin to change the bootlogo 02:46 < BlindSpy> i donno - i think that'd be easier to do in the source and then just recompile 02:46 < macPod> you can't easily change the boot logo now unless you want to change things pixel by pixel 02:46 < BlindSpy> i wont know till i look tho (which im not doing now) 02:46 < macPod> you have to work with hex codes 02:46 < macPod> BlindSpy, it is in tux.c 02:47 < macPod> so in other words.. don't try it 02:47 < BlindSpy> =) 02:47 < WariniMAC> look, the is a software, well a code in the forum to change from xpm to the format of the logo 02:48 < WariniMAC> leachbj told me to modify the loader 02:48 < macPod> link? 02:49 < BlindSpy> WariniMAC: i've heard of that before too 02:49 < BlindSpy> i spose you could use any hex editor of your choice but you'd have to know what to look for 02:50 < WariniMAC> I'll give u the link whait a sec 02:50 < WariniMAC> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=95&highlight=xpm 02:50 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC1BA94.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:51 < WariniMAC> check it 02:51 < sneakerelph> blindspy! macpod said you may be able to help me? 02:51 < BlindSpy> sir i will try 02:51 < macPod> cheers BlindSpy ^^ 02:51 < sneakerelph> im having trouble mounting my ipod on fedora core 1 kernel 2.6.6 02:51 < BlindSpy> =/ 02:51 < sneakerelph> its detected 02:51 < sneakerelph> in /proc/scsi/scsi 02:51 < BlindSpy> do you compile your own kernel with fedora? 02:51 < sneakerelph> yep 02:51 < BlindSpy> ok 02:51 < sneakerelph> well 02:51 < sneakerelph> no 02:52 < sneakerelph> but this one is my own compiled one 02:52 < BlindSpy> ok good 02:52 < BlindSpy> what method do you compile with? make menuconfig? 02:52 < sneakerelph> i have sbp2 as a modules 02:52 < sneakerelph> yea... xconfig gives me squares as text 02:52 < BlindSpy> ok good - and the 2 others are compiled in? 02:52 < sneakerelph> ieee1394 and ohci are modules as well 02:52 < sneakerelph> wait 02:52 < sneakerelph> ieee1394 isnt 02:52 < sneakerelph> its compiled in 02:52 < BlindSpy> well those dont matter - just as long as sbp2 is a module 02:53 < WariniMAC> did u try guys the new BlueCube 02:53 < sneakerelph> ok 02:53 < WariniMAC> ????? 02:53 < sneakerelph> i have a do not dissconect on my ipod 02:53 < BlindSpy> yes 02:53 < BlindSpy> i've writen a script for this 02:53 < sneakerelph> so its detected... it just doesnt mount 02:53 < sneakerelph> oooo yay! 02:53 < normalperson> is sbp2 used on the ipod kernel at all? I can't think of any use for it 02:53 < BlindSpy> http://blindspy.homelinux.org/~users/blindspy/ 02:54 < WariniMAC> it's great I was talking to him when he upload it and we were all like dude it's great 02:54 < normalperson> but then again, I can't telnet into mine 02:54 < BlindSpy> sneakerelph: download ipodmount and ipodunmount 02:54 < BlindSpy> and put them in /usr/bin 02:54 < sneakerelph> ok 02:54 < BlindSpy> make sure everything is unmounted and do a rmmod sbp2 02:54 < sneakerelph> lemme open firefox here... 02:54 < BlindSpy> k 02:55 < BlindSpy> it doent do any checks to make sure things arent already mounted, it just runs a list of commands so dont try and trick it =) 02:55 < sneakerelph> ok, but i get a connection refused when connecting to the website 02:55 < WariniMAC> I LOVE LINUX AND UNIX 02:56 < BlindSpy> http://blindspy.homelinux.org:8080/~users/blindspy/ 02:56 < BlindSpy> sorry bout that 02:56 < sneakerelph> wait... requested url not found 02:56 < normalperson> 404 here, too 02:56 < sneakerelph> hmmm.... 02:56 < normalperson> just ~blindspy :) 02:56 < BlindSpy> oops yoru right 02:56 < BlindSpy> my bad 02:56 < sneakerelph> oh ok 02:56 < BlindSpy> i never go to my own user site so i donno 02:56 < BlindSpy> haha 02:57 < sneakerelph> conn refused again 02:57 < BlindSpy> http://blindspy.homelinux.org:8080/~blindspy/ 02:57 < BlindSpy> there wego 02:57 < BlindSpy> you need the ending / 02:57 < sneakerelph> i ok 02:57 < sneakerelph> ah ok 02:57 < BlindSpy> get the 2 ipod scripts 02:57 < BlindSpy> put em in /usr/bin/ 02:57 < sneakerelph> ok 02:58 < sneakerelph> gotta get my terminal open here 02:58 < sneakerelph> ok 02:58 < BlindSpy> then make sure /dev/sda0 and 3 arent mounted 02:58 < BlindSpy> and do an rmmod sbp2 02:58 < BlindSpy> and do an lsmod to make sure the other 2 modules are loded (if you've got em compiled as modules) 02:59 < sneakerelph> my module is corrupt! im gonna have to reboot into 2.6.43 02:59 < BlindSpy> k 02:59 < sneakerelph> but are there any more instructions? 02:59 < BlindSpy> nope - just run that then 02:59 < sneakerelph> run the scripts? 02:59 < BlindSpy> oooh wait 02:59 < sneakerelph> ? 02:59 < BlindSpy> you've gotta make a /mnt/ipod and a /mnt/ipod_root 03:00 < sneakerelph> got the first on 03:00 < sneakerelph> lemme make the root one 03:00 < BlindSpy> that will make it so once you have linux on there, you can manipulate your filesystem 03:00 < sneakerelph> ok 03:00 < BlindSpy> thats it then 03:00 < sneakerelph> well i have linux on there 03:00 < BlindSpy> perfect 03:00 < sneakerelph> windows installer... i hate windows 03:00 < BlindSpy> you should be all set then 03:00 < sneakerelph> ok, i'll let you know how it goes~ 03:00 < sneakerelph> see ya later! 03:00 < BlindSpy> kk 03:00 < BlindSpy> good luck 03:00 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC1BA94.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:06 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC1BA94.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:06 < sneakerelph> uh oh 03:06 < sneakerelph> sda 2 and 3 are not valit block devices 03:06 < sneakerelph> [root@Infinia root]# ipodmount 03:06 < sneakerelph> iPod mounted 03:06 < sneakerelph> [root@Infinia root]# mount: /dev/sda3 is not a valid block device 03:06 < sneakerelph> mount: /dev/sda2 is not a valid block device 03:06 < sneakerelph> [root@Infinia root]# 03:07 < sneakerelph> my console output 03:07 < normalperson> sneakerelph: does cat /proc/scsi/scsi reveal anything? 03:08 < sneakerelph> um... 03:08 < sneakerelph> no 03:08 < sneakerelph> im in 2.4 kernel... 03:08 < normalperson> run scsiadd -s 03:08 < sneakerelph> command not found 03:09 < sneakerelph> modules are screwed in 2.6.6 03:09 < sneakerelph> network doesnt work in 2.6.4... 03:09 < sneakerelph> i gota do some serious recomiling 03:10 < normalperson> you might need to recompile and with probe all LUNs in your 2.4 SCSI config, or look for scsiadd... it's in the scsiadd package in Debian 03:10 < sneakerelph> well im gonna recompile 2.6.6 03:10 < sneakerelph> see if i can make things work 03:10 < sneakerelph> but im on an amd 700 mhz... so it could be awile 03:11 < sneakerelph> i have probe all LUNs in my 2.6 kernel 03:12 < sneakerelph> do i want phys DMA support for SBP2? 03:13 < normalperson> probably yes 03:13 < sneakerelph> ok 03:13 < normalperson> you could probably get scsiadd working faster than a new kernel :) 03:14 < sneakerelph> good idea 03:14 < sneakerelph> i'll google it 03:14 < normalperson> <-- hates rebooting his hosts 03:15 < sneakerelph> 37kb for scsiadd.. not bad 03:15 < sneakerelph> im on dial up 03:15 < WariniMAC> I thought no one uses dial up in this days 03:16 < sneakerelph> i live in the middle of nowhere 03:16 < WariniMAC> o ok, thats why 03:16 < sneakerelph> its AOL!!! ack! 03:16 < sneakerelph> my parents.... 03:17 < normalperson> naw, I know a good number of dialup users, and even some who wish their so called 'broadband' was as good as a 56k dialup connection 03:17 < sneakerelph> lol 03:17 < sneakerelph> ok, scsiadd -s shows that my SCSI emulated CDRW is attatched 03:18 < sneakerelph> but not my ipod 03:18 < WariniMAC> lol I have a 1.5 megabit dsl line 03:18 < sneakerelph> wow 03:18 < sneakerelph> fast 03:18 < WariniMAC> I love it 03:18 < sneakerelph> does it go that fast? or is that what the company says? 03:18 < sneakerelph> i would get satelite... expensive 03:19 < WariniMAC> no it goes at that speed all the time, well unless the guy you are downloading has a slower conection obvius, and in the university I download between 300 and 600 KB not Kb 03:20 < WariniMAC> with my laptop 03:20 < sneakerelph> holy shoot! 03:20 < sneakerelph> so like, the kernel takes you like 2 mins to d-load? 03:20 < sneakerelph> i gotta leave it on all day while im at school to get the kernel 03:20 < sneakerelph> thank god patchest only take 1/2 hour lol 03:20 < sneakerelph> patches** 03:22 -!- court_ [~court@adsl-33-140-137.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:22 < sneakerelph> ok, so only my cdrw shows up in scsiadd -s 03:22 < WariniMAC> I download a full DVD in a couple of hours 03:22 < sneakerelph> sheesh 03:22 -!- court [~court@adsl-19-32-74.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:23 < sneakerelph> anyideas? 03:23 < normalperson> sneakerelph: hmm... do you have {iee,ohci}1394 modules loaded? 03:23 < normalperson> err. ieee1394 03:23 < sneakerelph> oh... guess not 03:23 < sneakerelph> lol 03:23 < sneakerelph> still nothing 03:24 < normalperson> reload sbp2 03:24 < sneakerelph> i did 03:24 < sneakerelph> zilch 03:25 < normalperson> yikes 03:25 < sneakerelph> in my 2.6 kernel i get the ipod to show up in /proc/scsi/scsi 03:25 < sneakerelph> so if i recompile 03:25 < sneakerelph> it would show up 03:27 < sneakerelph> recompiling... this could take awhile 03:29 < sneakerelph> la la la 03:29 < sneakerelph> i know! i'll check the ipodlinux forums 03:30 < normalperson> an AMD 700 MHz isn't that bad if you strip it down to only what you need 03:31 < sneakerelph> yeah i try to 03:31 < sneakerelph> still takes like 1/2 hour 03:33 < normalperson> yikes! I'm sure my old Celeron 400 took less than 10 minutes back in the day 03:33 < sneakerelph> yeah, but what kernel is it compiling? 03:34 < normalperson> 2.2.x :) 03:34 < normalperson> still, it wasn't that bad 03:34 < sneakerelph> newer kernels take longer in my experience 03:34 < sneakerelph> but that new huh? 03:34 < sneakerelph> thats weird 03:34 < sneakerelph> of course, im a n00b to kernel recompiling, so i probably added stuff i didnt need 03:35 < sneakerelph> but wasnt sure, 03:35 < normalperson> ah, no worries :) 03:35 < sneakerelph> my kernel is about 2mb big lol 03:35 < sneakerelph> 1.7mb mostly 03:37 < normalperson> mine are 1.1 with modules 03:37 < sneakerelph> hmmm... 03:37 < sneakerelph> i must be adding too much stuff into kernel 03:38 -!- jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-11-100.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 03:38 < normalperson> I compile more modules than I need "just in case", but I've never actually needed them 03:39 < sneakerelph> yea same here, you know "maybe i'll go to circuit city and buy a USB HDD, better compile that module!" 03:39 < sneakerelph> lol 03:41 < macPod> time for me to go.. goodnight 03:41 < sneakerelph> bubbye 03:41 < sneakerelph> i need to go too... almost 9:00 on the pacific coast 03:41 < sneakerelph> but not quite yet 03:42 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC9C43EB.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["http://vcl.ctrl-c.liu.se/ woo"] 03:46 < sneakerelph> ok, kernel done compiling 03:46 < sneakerelph> gotta install it now 03:46 < sneakerelph> no module ieee1394 found for kernel 2.6.6 03:46 < sneakerelph> eh? 03:51 < sneakerelph> falling back to kernel 2.6.3 03:51 < sneakerelph> reboot 03:52 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC1BA94.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:59 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC1BA94.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:59 < sneakerelph> ok, im in kernel 2.6.3 04:00 < sneakerelph> ipod shows in scsiadd -s 04:00 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-18-34.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:00 < sneakerelph> but my modules are still screwed? 04:01 < sneakerelph> wait! 04:01 < sneakerelph> it works~ 04:01 < sneakerelph> my ipod is mounted! 04:01 < sneakerelph> thanks for everything guys! 04:01 < sneakerelph> thanks for the scripts blindspy! 04:02 < sneakerelph> ok... its late 04:02 < sneakerelph> thanks again! but i gotta go 04:02 < sneakerelph> later 04:02 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC1BA94.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Client Quit] 04:13 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC1BA94.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 04:14 < sneakerelph> hello again... 04:14 < sneakerelph> anyone know how to get MAD? 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16:07 < WariniMAC> hi dude how are u 16:07 < court_> tired 16:07 < court_> and you? 16:08 < WariniMAC> watching the spain greece soccer game 16:08 < WariniMAC> :) 16:08 < court_> score? 16:08 < WariniMAC> 0-0 16:11 -!- elinenbe|sleeps [trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:11 -!- elinenbe [trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 16:11 -!- elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|sleeps 16:29 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.111] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:10 -!- jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-11-100.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:19 -!- macPod [~One800jef@ACAE65F3.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:22 < macPod> 0-yea 17:41 -!- tlg [~tlg@21-101.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be] has quit ["Client exiting"] 17:42 -!- macPod [~One800jef@ACAE65F3.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["It's good to be the king"] 17:44 -!- Arius [edwinjm@user-11217oc.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:44 < Arius> Hellow 17:46 < Arius> anyone there? 17:46 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB149.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 17:46 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o leachbj ] by ChanServ 17:47 < Arius> hellow 17:47 < leachbj> hi 17:47 < Arius> I'm kinda new to this linux for Ipod 17:47 < Arius> I was wondering if some could help 17:47 < leachbj> sure, whats the problem? 17:47 < Arius> thanks, I just used the linux installer for windows 17:47 < Arius> And I want to playback my mp3s 17:48 < Arius> I looked in the forum for this type of problem but nothing there seemed to help 17:48 < leachbj> ok, you should be able to use the File Browser to navigate through the directories on the ipod 17:49 < Arius> ok 17:49 < Arius> which directories should I look for? 17:50 < leachbj> I'm not exactly sure where the current windows installer mounts it, maybe under /mnt? 17:51 < Arius> ok 17:51 < Arius> i'll try to find it 17:51 < Arius> so does podzilla have its own mp3 decoder? 17:51 < Arius> or do i need to apply something like MAD for mp3 playback? 17:51 < leachbj> not an internal one, it still uses "mp3example" the intel player 17:51 < Arius> oh ok 17:52 < leachbj> the directory your looking for should be in the root directory 17:52 < normalperson> leachbj: would something written for OSS work with the ipod audio driver? 17:53 < leachbj> sure 17:53 < normalperson> cool 17:53 < leachbj> thats how mp3example,flite,madplay etc use it 17:53 < normalperson> I just need to find time to be at my computer with a firewire port and get libao to work, or get MPD to support oss directly 17:54 < leachbj> libao? mpd? 17:54 < normalperson> mpd = musicpd.org, libao is a frontend that allows apps to interface using alsa/oss/nas/esd 17:55 < normalperson> mpd does gapless playback very well, so I'm hoping it can run well on the ipod 17:55 < normalperson> and mpd has run on a pentium 75 with 32mb, so getting it to run on the ipod should be possible 17:55 < normalperson> I think libao is a xiph project 17:56 < normalperson> apparently uclinux doesn't have dlopen, not that I think I'd need it on the ipod 17:56 < normalperson> but libao uses dlopen 17:56 < leachbj> what decoders does mpd use? 17:57 < leachbj> answering my own question: libmad, libvorbis etc... 17:57 < normalperson> flac, mad, audiofile, vorbis, faad all work 17:57 < normalperson> :) 17:57 < normalperson> flac is the only one I care about 18:00 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9FFA5E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:08 < Arius> hey leachbj 18:08 < Arius> you there? 18:08 < leachbj> yup 18:08 < Arius> ok kewl I noticed your name shows up on the boot of linux 18:09 < Arius> leachbJ Exp $ 18:09 < Arius> and it freezes 18:09 < Arius> at that point 18:09 < leachbj> http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=143 18:10 < Arius> I was there already 18:10 < Arius> but unfortunately none of those methods worked 18:10 < Arius> Could the kernel be corrupt? 18:11 < leachbj> probably not, I think that it is some weird interrupt type problem. 18:11 < leachbj> what model iPod do you have? is linux or Apple the default at boot? 18:12 < Arius> I previously had my 3rd gen Ipod settings with Apple as Default for boot 18:12 < Arius> Now i have linux for default boot 18:12 < leachbj> and still the same? 18:12 < Arius> Yes, Unfortunately 18:12 < leachbj> and you used the windows installer? 18:12 < Arius> yes 18:14 < leachbj> is it docked? headphones plugged in? remote? upside down? anything? 18:14 < Arius> i have the headphones on 18:14 < Arius> and it's not docked 18:15 < leachbj> can u try with the headphones out... 18:15 < Arius> i'm doing that 18:16 < Arius> nope 18:16 < normalperson> the uclinux-2.4.24-ipod0 kernel always booted fine for me, but -ipod1 from CVS had that problem iirc 18:16 < normalperson> haven't tried looking into it, though 18:17 < leachbj> I guess there are a few changes between those two releases that could cause the problem. 18:17 < normalperson> I think I was 5/5 with -ipod0 and 1/5 with -ipod1 18:17 < normalperson> maybe I'll get time to look at it tonight 18:19 < normalperson> is the sbp2 module used by the ipod kernel itself, I don't see much reason to have it around 18:19 < leachbj> normalperson: its only loaded if you modprobe it 18:19 < normalperson> unless ipod <-> ipod docking is in the works 18:20 < Arius> i Don't know what i did but it was working before 18:20 < Arius> I was starting to like this linux 18:20 < Arius> but now it just won't boot 18:20 < normalperson> yeah, I'm probably going to compile my ipod kernel w/o module support, I don't think I'll be needing it 18:20 < leachbj> normalperson: that basically works ipod <-> ipod that is. 18:21 < leachbj> removing module support doesn't really gain you that much... there was also a problem where the firewire driver was in kernel (although if you don't need firewire thats not a problem). 18:21 < Arius> Leach do you think me doing a restore would help? 18:22 < leachbj> Arius: not really, if what normal person is saying is true then there is a bug in the kernel you have installed... 18:22 < normalperson> hmm.. firewire on my 3g has never worked in Linux 18:23 < normalperson> could never ping/telnet to it, at least 18:23 < Arius> oh i see 18:23 < leachbj> what is your host kernel version? 18:23 < Arius> where do i find out? 18:23 < normalperson> leachbj: 2.6.5 + ipodeth1394 and 2.4.26 + 2.4.20 eth1394 backport 18:23 < leachbj> sorry that was for normalperson ;) 18:23 < Arius> oh ok 18:24 < Arius> woah 18:24 < normalperson> haven't had time to try 2.6.[67] on my host machine 18:24 < Arius> it just started working again 18:24 < leachbj> Arius: I think it will seem pretty much random if it works or not... 18:25 < leachbj> normalperson: I'm using 2.4.26 with the driver from ipodlinux kernel and its pretty solid. I use a vanilla 2.4.26 other than the eth1394 patch. 18:25 < Arius> hey normal person would you happen to know what directory the mp3s could be found 18:25 < Arius> ? 18:26 < normalperson> Arius: *shrug* I haven't tried mp3 playback tbh, it's kinda useless to me 18:26 < leachbj> I guess it wasn't /mnt ? 18:26 < Arius> nope it sure wasn't 18:27 < normalperson> i'm going to try firewire/telnet again tonight maybe 18:27 < leachbj> one strange problem I have is if the ipod is not device 0 then it doesnt work.. dpalffy says he doesnt have this problem though... 18:28 < leachbj> if it shows up as device 1, I just unplug it and replug until it is. 18:30 < Arius> got any more suggestion leachbj? 18:30 < normalperson> weird 18:30 < leachbj> for the directory? the normal directories are (bin, dev, etc, home, lib, proc, sbin, sys, tmp, usr and var) so something other than that 18:32 < normalperson> /sys is only for 2.6, right? 18:32 < leachbj> the directory is in the rootfs I think 18:32 < normalperson> yeah, but unused 18:32 < leachbj> yup 18:32 < leachbj> I use the same filesystem under 2.6 18:33 < normalperson> ah, cool. 2.6 is still corrupting the fs? 18:34 < leachbj> yup, I'll have another go when the 2.6.7 patch comes out. 18:35 < normalperson> is it fs-specific or vfs in general? 18:35 < leachbj> I think its in the ide driver 18:37 < Arius> i still can't find the directory leach 18:37 < Arius> it's strange 18:37 < Arius> i've looked in every one of them 18:37 < Arius> is there something i forgot to do? 18:37 < leachbj> what directories exist other than the ones I listed above? 18:38 < Arius> lost+found 18:38 < Arius> mnt 18:38 < Arius> hp 18:39 < Arius> that's all 18:39 < leachbj> hp is it 18:41 < Arius> ok i'm in hp 18:42 < leachbj> whats in there? 18:43 < Arius> now i see ipod_c~1 18:43 < Arius> contacts 18:43 < Arius> calend~1 18:43 < Arius> notes 18:43 < Arius> test.raw 18:43 < Arius> linux 18:43 < Arius> wmpinfo.xml 18:43 < leachbj> ipod_c~1 and then music 18:44 < Arius> ok now i see a whole bunch of folder 18:44 < Arius> do i go in music 18:44 < Arius> and select whatever folder i want? 18:44 < leachbj> yup, they are the music directories, f00, and then you'll see a bunch of mp3s 18:45 < Arius> awesome! 18:45 < Arius> It worked 18:45 < Arius> thanks so much 18:45 < leachbj> cool 18:47 < Arius> would i also be able to install mad into my Ipod Linux using windows? 18:48 < leachbj> MAD is slower than the mp3player already installed 18:49 < Arius> how about TREMOR? 18:49 < normalperson> leachbj: is mp3player gpl-compatible and therefore linkable to mpd? 18:51 < leachbj> nope, not gpl 18:51 < leachbj> tremor is not realtime 18:53 < normalperson> flac shouldn't be nearly as processing intensive as mp3, I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone try it on the ipod yet 18:53 < leachbj> I don't have any flac encoded stuff so I haven't been really motivated ;) 18:54 < normalperson> leachbj: that sentence applies to me if it was s/flac/lossy codec/ :) 18:55 < Arius> how come the battery meter doesn't work right? 18:55 < leachbj> ;) 18:55 < leachbj> as court put it last night, b/c your batter isn't fully charged ;) 18:59 < normalperson> hehe 19:07 * leachbj is away: I'm busy 19:08 -!- Arius [edwinjm@user-11217oc.dsl.mindspring.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:08 -!- Arius [edwinjm@user-11217oc.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 19:35 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9FFAA68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:39 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.111] has joined #ipodlinux 19:39 < WariniMAC> hi 19:40 < WariniMAC> wazup dudes 19:45 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.111] has quit ["Quit"] 19:46 -!- Arius [edwinjm@user-11217oc.dsl.mindspring.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 20:43 -!- elinenbe|sleeps is now known as elinenbe 20:46 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9FFAA68.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:05 < BlindSpy> WOO HOO! new graphics card! 21:05 < leachbj> ;) 21:18 -!- Arius [edwinjm@user-11217oc.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:19 -!- Uranus [Urinol@adsl-norte01-1-112.vianw.pt] has joined #ipodlinux 21:55 < court_> leachbj? 21:55 < leachbj> yo 21:56 < court_> wow that was quick 21:56 < court_> err is cvs going to be updated soon? 21:56 < leachbj> podzilla? 21:56 < court_> yea 21:57 < leachbj> I'm working on it just now... I just wanted to sort out the sources a little so it was clear what changes were made to the original 21:57 < court_> ok just checking 21:57 < leachbj> np ;) 22:13 -!- Arius [edwinjm@user-11217oc.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 22:34 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC59172.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:37 < sneakerelph> OotLink... Ocarina of Time? 22:39 < court_> wow... 22:39 < sneakerelph> its a great game 22:40 < court_> that it was... the firt 8 times 22:40 < court_> *first 22:40 < sneakerelph> yeah.. then it gets easy 22:40 < sneakerelph> but fun to play again after a year 22:40 < court_> lost mine :( 22:41 < sneakerelph> i have 2 copies on the 64... and one on the cube 22:44 < sneakerelph> randomly generated dungeons would have been soooooooo cool 22:44 < court_> heh 22:46 * OoTLink grins 22:56 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:26 -!- Uranus|PT [Urinol@adsl-norte01-1-112.vianw.pt] has joined #ipodlinux 23:26 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC59172.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:27 -!- Uranus [Urinol@adsl-norte01-1-112.vianw.pt] has quit [sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:27 -!- danalien [~danalien@h243n1fls29o1061.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:27 -!- Uranus|PT [Urinol@adsl-norte01-1-112.vianw.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 23:27 -!- danalien [~danalien@h243n1fls29o1061.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ipodlinux 23:35 < leachbj> court_: ok its all checked in. it might take a little while to show up in public cvs though. 23:36 < leachbj> court_: this source code isn't quite the same as used for the binary... needs a little more work to fix up the screen flicker I have introduced... 23:38 < court_> ok,thx 23:40 -!- Arius [edwinjm@user-1120hgg.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:41 -!- Arius [edwinjm@user-1120hgg.dsl.mindspring.com] has left #ipodlinux [] 23:41 < leachbj> night all... 23:41 * leachbj is away: sleeping 23:41 -!- leachbj [~leachbj@pD9EAB149.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 00:08 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 00:38 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC93E1D5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:55 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC183BE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 00:55 < sneakerelph> yo 00:56 < macPod> hey 00:56 < sneakerelph> my ipod works under linux! its great! 00:56 < macPod> excellent 00:56 < sneakerelph> i wanna telnet into it 00:56 < sneakerelph> but i dont think i have eth1394... 00:57 < sneakerelph> i better compile that one 00:57 < macPod> hold on there 00:57 < macPod> I believe you have to modify the code for that 00:57 < macPod> so make sure you read up before wasting time compiling it :o 00:57 < macPod> I will be able to telnet as soon as they update the kernel to 2.6 00:57 < macPod> so it is compliant under os x 00:58 < sneakerelph> i have kernel 2.6.3... is that a problem? 00:58 < macPod> nope 00:58 < macPod> I'm talking about the kernel the ipod uses 00:58 < sneakerelph> oooooooooooooooo 00:59 < sneakerelph> do i get the beta kernel then? 00:59 < sneakerelph> or does that one not work? 01:01 < macPod> you don't need the 2.6 kernel. That is probably in pre-alpha stage 01:01 < macPod> the one you have is fine 01:01 < macPod> to get telnet working you need to modify your own kernel 01:01 < sneakerelph> oh 01:02 < sneakerelph> i see 01:02 < macPod> However 01:02 < sneakerelph> yes... 01:02 < macPod> if you are running os x like I, you would need the 2.6 kernel for the ipod because the protocol for the 2.4 kernel does not exactly follow the standard 01:03 < sneakerelph> hmm... 01:03 < macPod> I'll stop there so I don't confuse you more ;P 01:03 < sneakerelph> wait wait 01:04 < sneakerelph> do you know how to modify the kernel? 01:04 < macPod> for mac os linux? 01:04 < sneakerelph> linux 01:04 < sneakerelph> i dont have os x :-( 01:05 < macPod> you have to recompile the kernel to modify it 01:05 < sneakerelph> yes 01:06 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.111] has joined #ipodlinux 01:06 < WariniMAC> hi 01:06 < WariniMAC> .... 01:06 < sneakerelph> hi 01:06 < WariniMAC> how are u 01:07 < WariniMAC> did you finished your installation, you where the guy that was asking yesterday???? 01:07 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-11-100.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 01:09 < sneakerelph> yes 01:09 < sneakerelph> i had it installed already... it was mounting it was the problem 01:09 < sneakerelph> i had to use the windows installer 01:09 < sneakerelph> but i got it fixed 01:09 < sneakerelph> thanks to blindspy's scripts 01:09 < macPod> I am making an os x installer for the lame 01:09 < WariniMAC> cool 01:10 < sneakerelph> lame? mp3 encoder? 01:10 < sneakerelph> or lame as in stupid 01:10 < macPod> when you get the chance, sneakerelph, could you send me pics of the windows installer so I can see what they did? 01:10 < WariniMAC> what lame????? 01:10 < macPod> the latter of the two 01:10 < sneakerelph> ah 01:10 < WariniMAC> what is the LAME 01:11 < WariniMAC> I'm newbee remember 01:11 < sneakerelph> LAME aint an MP3 encoder 01:12 < sneakerelph> thats what it stands for 01:13 < WariniMAC> macPod you are making a mac installer so installing linux in ipod will be graphically done???? 01:13 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC183BE.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:17 < macPod> yes 01:23 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC183BE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:23 < sneakerelph> im back 01:23 < macPod> wb 01:23 < sneakerelph> macpod, if it helps, im on AOL too... 01:23 < sneakerelph> my "router" runs aol 01:24 < macPod> yea... 01:24 < sneakerelph> its my parents though 01:24 < WariniMAC> eeeeeeee, macpod I bought a Airport extrem 01:25 < sneakerelph> i have a wireless network... 802.11b 01:25 < sneakerelph> no g 01:25 < sneakerelph> extreme 01:25 < macPod> b or go? 01:25 < sneakerelph> 802.11b 01:25 < WariniMAC> mine b&g 01:25 < macPod> ah 01:25 < sneakerelph> g is backward compatible with b 01:26 < macPod> yea 01:26 < macPod> so you should say g instead of b 01:26 < sneakerelph> but if a b card connects to a g network, it goes slower 01:26 < macPod> as g is faster 01:26 < sneakerelph> they on the same frequency 01:26 < WariniMAC> but g is 54Mbit 01:26 < sneakerelph> anyone played bluecube? its great! 01:27 < WariniMAC> yes it's fuckung cool 01:28 < sneakerelph> thats not a nice word 01:29 < WariniMAC> sorry 01:29 * court_ rolls his eyes 01:29 < WariniMAC> well it's cool 01:30 < WariniMAC> :)\ 01:57 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.111] has quit ["Quit"] 01:57 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC183BE.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:00 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC23033.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:00 < sneakerelph> sorry... i got kicked off internet 02:02 < macPod> bleh, done coding for now 02:03 < court_> so it works already? wow ;) 02:03 < macPod> after I finish this parsing code, yes it should 02:04 < macPod> The hardest part is that, and the error checking 02:04 < macPod> for morons 02:04 < court_> lol 02:04 < sneakerelph> almost finished with the mac installer? 02:04 < macPod> After I do the parsing code, and do a little debugging, yes 02:04 < sneakerelph> cool 02:04 < macPod> you can program really fast in cocoa 02:05 < court_> debugging woohoo! 02:05 < macPod> I have essentially no knowledge of it and can still go pretty fast 02:05 < sneakerelph> cocoa? 02:05 < sneakerelph> sorry... i dont code 02:05 < macPod> object-c 02:05 < sneakerelph> program language? 02:05 < macPod> it is a programming api 02:05 < court_> you know,chocolate.. 02:05 < sneakerelph> lol 02:05 < macPod> that goes around object-c and java 02:05 < sneakerelph> what would you recommend for learning to program 02:06 < sneakerelph> ah 02:06 < macPod> what is gmail? 02:07 < sneakerelph> google's email service 02:07 < sneakerelph> 1GB of space 02:07 < sneakerelph> its still in testing though 02:07 < macPod> holy shit I need that 02:07 -!- Blind_Spy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 02:07 < court_> god macpod i hate the way you indent you code... 02:08 < macPod> what code are you looking at? 02:08 < macPod> for the shell? 02:08 < court_> yep 02:08 < macPod> meh, probably a mac-linux thing 02:09 < macPod> what are you going to use it for? 02:09 < macPod> hmm... I should modify it now 02:09 < macPod> nah, I'm too tired 02:09 < sneakerelph> whats a good programming language to get started? 02:09 < court_> well i was just making it easier to select a single character... 02:09 < court_> c 02:09 < macPod> sneakerelph, learn c 02:10 < sneakerelph> c... 02:10 < sneakerelph> ok 02:10 < sneakerelph> any recommended books? 02:10 < macPod> search online 02:10 < sneakerelph> ok 02:10 < court_> google 02:10 < sneakerelph> k 02:11 < sneakerelph> or even an online tutorial would be cool 02:11 < sneakerelph> but i wouldnt get everything i needed i bet 02:11 < sneakerelph> is C++ the same thing? 02:11 < macPod> no 02:11 < sneakerelph> ok 02:11 < macPod> it is slower and crappyer 02:12 < sneakerelph> lol 02:12 < sneakerelph> alright 02:12 < court_> easier to write though... 02:12 < court_> but avoid it like the plague... ;) 02:13 < sneakerelph> ok 02:13 < sneakerelph> i found somehitng 02:13 < sneakerelph> members.tripod.com/~johnt/c.html 02:16 < court_> very bright 02:17 < macPod> gota get a gmail account... 02:18 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has joined #ipodlinux 02:20 < court_> www.iota-six.co.uk/c/default.asp 02:20 -!- Blind_Spy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 02:20 < court_> gmail looks awesome! 02:20 -!- Blind_Spy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 02:20 < macPod> yea.. just gotta get an invitee so I can get in 02:21 < sneakerelph> how do you get an invite? 02:22 < macPod> you gotta sign up 02:22 < macPod> http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/about.html#cost 02:22 < macPod> put your email on the bottom of that page 02:23 < sneakerelph> bottome of what page? 02:23 < sneakerelph> i'm already on the newsletter list 02:23 < macPod> the page that I just sent you 02:23 < macPod> then you should get one shortly 02:23 < macPod> apparently they send you hundreds of invites 02:23 < sneakerelph> i've been on that list for 2 monthes 02:23 -!- davidc__freenode [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 02:23 < macPod> hmm 02:23 -!- davidc__freenode is now known as davidc__ 02:24 < macPod> well I've got people over at #vcl giving them out earlier 02:24 < macPod> before I got on... 02:24 < davidc__> hi all 02:24 < macPod> hey davidc__ 02:24 < macPod> and a bunch more peopel on forums giving them away 02:24 < davidc__> giving what away? 02:24 < davidc__> free stuff? :p 02:24 < macPod> gmail account 02:24 < sneakerelph> there, i signed up again 02:25 < davidc__> hey, can I have one? 02:25 < macPod> http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/about.html#cost 02:25 < macPod> sign up 02:25 < davidc__> huh? 02:25 < davidc__> no sign up link/box 02:26 < sneakerelph> its a beta 02:26 < macPod> go to the bottom 02:26 < sneakerelph> sign up for the newsletter 02:26 < macPod> you have to wait for one 02:26 < sneakerelph> and hope they send you one 02:26 < sneakerelph> adventuremail.com has 2gb 02:26 < sneakerelph> just so you know 02:26 < davidc__> yeah I know its in beta :p 02:26 < davidc__> I was wondering how the hell he got an account :p 02:27 < sneakerelph> aventuremail.com 02:28 < sneakerelph> 2gb 02:29 < sneakerelph> oh... they dont accept free registrations yet 02:30 < davidc__> yeah 02:30 < davidc__> and it looks like the usefull stuff is pay 02:30 < sneakerelph> dang 02:30 < sneakerelph> i use hotpop 02:30 < sneakerelph> 10 whole megabytes of space 02:30 < davidc__> and I don't trust a tiny company to stay around for more then 5 minutes... 02:31 < davidc__> google, on the other hand, will be around for a while. 02:31 < sneakerelph> hotpop has been around for a year or so 02:31 < sneakerelph> i've had them for about 6 mos 02:31 < sneakerelph> i think a yea 02:31 < sneakerelph> year 02:31 < sneakerelph> maybe more 02:31 < davidc__> heh, I just use my shaw email, and hotmail 02:31 < davidc__> use hotwayd for hotmail->pop 02:31 < macPod> http://www.gmailswap.com/ 02:31 -!- Blind_Spy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 02:31 < davidc__> don't ask about the hotmail.. have had it for like 5 years now. 02:32 -!- Blind_Spy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 02:34 < macPod> wb 02:39 -!- Blind_Spy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 02:39 -!- Blind_Spy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 02:42 < sneakerelph> woah... c is hard to learn 02:42 < sneakerelph> reading an online tut 02:42 < sneakerelph> i wrote a program that adds some numbers! 02:43 < sneakerelph> but thats it 02:43 < sneakerelph> perhaps im too young 02:43 < macPod> I started programming when i was 11 02:43 < sneakerelph> dang 02:43 < macPod> You are never too young 02:43 < sneakerelph> im 14 02:43 < sneakerelph> well then 02:43 < sneakerelph> im gonna have to get a book 02:44 < macPod> that is a little bit before when I started learning c 02:44 < macPod> or rather c++ 02:44 < sneakerelph> i know some BASIC 02:44 < sneakerelph> and HTML 02:44 < macPod> there is a good book 02:44 < davidc__> hehehe. I've got you all beat. Started C @ 9. 02:44 < macPod> sneakerelph, search for "ANSI C" 02:44 < sneakerelph> dang 02:45 < davidc__> I've even got some files on a zip disk with parts of a really broken asteroids clone from then that I wrote :p 02:45 < sneakerelph> wow 02:46 < davidc__> heh.. doesn't even compile now, missing two of the 4 files... 02:47 < sneakerelph> darv 02:47 < sneakerelph> darn 02:47 < sneakerelph> asteroids would be awesome on an ipod... 02:48 < sneakerelph> you could leave the other four buttons free to control music 02:48 < sneakerelph> wait 02:48 < sneakerelph> you need one for boost 02:48 < macPod> the middle one 02:49 < sneakerelph> yea, but one about shoot? 02:49 < davidc__> hehe... my ipod modification site which was pre-ipod linux stated: 02:49 < davidc__> http://members.lycos.co.uk/busonerd/ipod.php 02:50 < davidc__> First: my objective Play space invaders on my ipod 02:50 < macPod> heh 02:50 < macPod> I remember going to your site when learnign aboout modifying ipods 02:51 < davidc__> heh, were you there? 02:51 < macPod> and I was really pissed off because you site had nothing on it :P 02:51 < davidc__> bern did all of the real work :p 02:52 < macPod> Yea he did 02:52 < davidc__> All I created was a checksum modifier :p... and that was dead simple. 02:52 < sneakerelph> maybe i will post this to /. 02:52 < davidc__> hahga 02:52 < davidc__> its so out of date 02:52 < davidc__> I don't even have the ftp passwords 02:52 < davidc__> The hosting started to majorly suck 02:52 < davidc__> so I ignored it. 02:52 < davidc__> it used to be ad free.. but now its crap. 02:53 < davidc__> anyways... I've got some coding I gotta do... and still get this damn firewire port running under linux... so ttyl 02:54 < macPod> c-ya 02:54 < davidc__> maybe I will write an asteroids clone tonight 02:55 < davidc__> or maybe a space invaders clone 02:55 < davidc__> I feel like coding something other then boring php... dammnit. I was gonna work.... irc is too distracting. 02:55 < macPod> yea it is 02:55 < macPod> I ahve wasted my life ehre 02:57 < sneakerelph> lol 02:57 < sneakerelph> reading c tut reaction "do not comprehend" 02:57 < sneakerelph> this will be hard 02:57 < sneakerelph> but 02:57 < sneakerelph> im gonna get it 03:00 < sneakerelph> hey macpod, here's some code, tell me what im doing wrong 03:00 < macPod> kk 03:00 < sneakerelph> mainn() 03:00 < sneakerelph> { 03:00 < sneakerelph> int a, b, c, sum; 03:00 < sneakerelph> int a=1; b=2; c=3; 03:00 < sneakerelph> sum= a + b + c; 03:00 < sneakerelph> printf ("the sum is %d" sum); 03:00 < sneakerelph> exit (0); 03:00 < sneakerelph> } 03:00 < sneakerelph> whoops 03:00 < sneakerelph> 2 n's on main 03:00 < sneakerelph> just ignore that 03:00 < davidc__> , after " 03:01 < macPod> printf ("the sum is %d", sum); 03:01 < macPod> you missed a comma there 03:01 < sneakerelph> ah 03:01 < macPod> this int a=1; b=2; c=3; 03:01 < davidc__> as I said :p... dammnit.. 03:01 * davidc__ smacks myself. get back to work 03:01 < macPod> shoud be this int a=1, b=2, c=3; 03:01 < macPod> sneakerelph, don't bother with the exit 03:02 < macPod> unless it is "int main()" 03:02 < davidc__> well 03:02 < davidc__> even then it should be return 0; 03:02 < davidc__> not exit 0 03:02 < macPod> right 03:02 < davidc__> *exit(0) 03:02 < macPod> hey davidc__, get back to work1 03:02 < macPod> :P 03:04 < sneakerelph> oh semicolons 03:04 < sneakerelph> got it 03:05 < sneakerelph> sorry 03:05 < sneakerelph> output of gcc: 03:05 < sneakerelph> prog.c: In function `main': 03:05 < sneakerelph> prog.c:3: error: `b' undeclared (first use in this function) 03:05 < sneakerelph> prog.c:3: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once 03:05 < sneakerelph> prog.c:3: error: for each function it appears in.) 03:05 < sneakerelph> prog.c:3: error: `c' undeclared (first use in this function) 03:05 < sneakerelph> prog.c:3: error: `sum' undeclared (first use in this function) 03:05 < sneakerelph> prog.c:4: error: redeclaration of `a' 03:05 < sneakerelph> prog.c:3: error: `a' previously declared here 03:05 < macPod> dcc me the file 03:05 < sneakerelph> dcc? 03:06 < court_> didja get rid of the semicolins? 03:06 < macPod> oh wait 03:06 < sneakerelph> ? 03:06 < macPod> int a=1; b=2; c=3; 03:06 < macPod> sneakerelph, I rejected 03:06 < sneakerelph> ? 03:06 < macPod> that line should be a=1; b=2; c=3; 03:06 < macPod> remove the int 03:06 < sneakerelph> oh ok 03:07 < macPod> you declared in the previous line that it was an int 03:07 < court_> yup, yup 03:07 < sneakerelph> now it says a, b, c, and sum are undeclared 03:07 < macPod> eh 03:07 < macPod> send me the file 03:07 < macPod> I'lll fix 03:07 < sneakerelph> the .c file? 03:07 < macPod> wil be faster 03:07 < macPod> yea 03:07 < davidc__> or post on web somewhere. 03:08 < davidc__> that way we can all see it 03:08 < sneakerelph> i sent it to macpod 03:08 < macPod> no davidc__, we shall not do that because you need to do your work :O 03:08 < sneakerelph> lol 03:08 < davidc__> thank you. 03:08 < court_> w.. 03:09 < macPod> accept! 03:09 < macPod> I am transferring 03:09 < sneakerelph> sorry 03:09 < macPod> sokay 03:09 < sneakerelph> now where did it save to? 03:10 < macPod> I dunno 03:11 < sneakerelph> k 03:11 < sneakerelph> i know where it is 03:12 < sneakerelph> what did you change? other than moving a= b= and c= to their own lines? 03:12 -!- Blind_Spy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:12 < macPod> wait hold on 03:12 < sneakerelph> k 03:12 < macPod> in front of main 03:12 < macPod> type int 03:12 < macPod> and then before the last bracke 03:13 < macPod> t 03:13 < macPod> type return 0; 03:13 < sneakerelph> init in front of main gives me errors 03:13 < sneakerelph> int** 03:14 < macPod> you just type int 03:14 < macPod> not init 03:14 < sneakerelph> i know 03:14 < sneakerelph> typo\ 03:14 < sneakerelph> still, errors 03:14 < court_> what error? 03:14 < macPod> alright 03:14 < sneakerelph> prog.c: In function `main': 03:14 < sneakerelph> prog.c:10: error: syntax error before '}' token 03:15 < macPod> send me your code again 03:15 < davidc__> make sure theres a semicolon 03:15 < davidc__> argh 03:16 * davidc__ smacks myself 03:16 < sneakerelph> after int? 03:16 < sneakerelph> so int; main() 03:16 < davidc__> no 03:16 < davidc__> after the last line before } 03:16 < sneakerelph> oooooo 03:16 < sneakerelph> i messed that one up :) 03:17 < davidc__> now, I really am going to work. someone kick me if I start talking after this without saying I'm done first. 03:17 < sneakerelph> what does (int argc, char **argv) after int main do? 03:17 < macPod> hehehe 03:17 < macPod> sneakerelph, don't worry about that 03:18 < macPod> that is stuff so the operating system can pass information to your program when it first starts 03:18 < macPod> you will learn about that later 03:18 < sneakerelph> ok 03:18 < court_> kick, like with my foot or... 03:18 < sneakerelph> just wondering 03:19 < court_> for example: ls -sh 03:19 < sneakerelph> the prog works without it though 03:19 < sneakerelph> is that like
in html... where its not needed until bigger stuff? 03:19 < sneakerelph> but its good practice 03:20 < court_> not really... 03:20 < sneakerelph> oh 03:21 < court_> only if you need information passed to the program 03:21 < sneakerelph> oh 03:21 < sneakerelph> which i dont,which is why the prog still works without it right? 03:21 < court_> yerp 03:22 < sneakerelph> ok 03:22 < sneakerelph> got it 03:23 < sneakerelph> this is rather funny... all you ace programmers helping me debug a prog that adds 1,2,and 3 03:23 < sneakerelph> but it is a learning experience 03:23 < court_> i dunno about ace 03:23 < sneakerelph> well, certainly better than me, right? 03:24 < court_> well i can add three nubers.. is that enough? 03:24 < macPod> oh yea! 03:24 < sneakerelph> lol 03:24 < macPod> got a gmail11 03:24 < court_> even four if i have too 03:24 < court_> HOW? 03:24 < macPod> http://www.gmailswap.com/ 03:25 < davidc__> yea, 1+2+3=7! I can add. 03:25 < macPod> damnit davidc__ 03:25 < macPod> go away1. 03:26 < court_> KICK 03:26 < sneakerelph> lol 03:26 < sneakerelph> schweet... i want a gmail! 03:26 < macPod> I would, but I don't ahve the heart... or the ops to do it ;P 03:26 < davidc__> whew.. good thing I'm the only one that gets mod privs... now going back to work. 03:26 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 03:28 < macPod> heheheh 03:28 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 03:29 < macPod> I got a gmail accout BlindSpy! 03:29 < BlindSpy> no way! how? 03:29 < macPod> http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/about.html 03:30 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:30 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 03:30 < macPod> davidc__ I swear if I had ops... 03:31 < macPod> :P 03:31 < davidc__> /kick macPod 03:31 < davidc__> :p 03:31 < BlindSpy> how'd you get it mac? 03:31 < BlindSpy> i've signed up for that thing but never got an account 03:31 < court_> so uh could you give me an invite? 03:31 < court_> ... ;) 03:32 < macPod> Yea, once I get them 03:32 < macPod> apparently you get alot of them 03:32 < macPod> just do http://www.gmailswap.com/ 03:32 < macPod> and say what you will give 03:32 < davidc__> whaddidya give? 03:33 < macPod> my gratitude and appreciation 03:33 < macPod> and I said I coded gnu code 03:33 < macPod> and other shtuffs 03:33 < BlindSpy> oh you got it from there? 03:33 < BlindSpy> from some other dood? 03:34 < macPod> yea 03:34 < BlindSpy> can you get one for me =D 03:35 < macPod> If they give me an invitation 03:35 < BlindSpy> i want a gmail account soooo bad 03:36 < sneakerelph> i posted 03:36 < macPod> omniwolf@gmail.com 03:36 < macPod> oh yea! 03:37 < macPod> somebody email me! 03:37 < macPod> :) 03:37 < davidc__> alright. 03:37 < macPod> not you davidc__, you need to work 03:38 -!- jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-19-71.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 03:40 < davidc__> Sent 03:40 < court_> should'nt you be working? 03:41 < macPod> wiw, I got it already Courtney 03:41 < davidc__> yes.. but php is so bouring. 03:41 < davidc__> *boring 03:41 < court_> yay 03:42 < court_> php is boring.. 03:42 < macPod> Yea, email me and I will send the invitations back whenever I get em 03:45 < davidc__> hmm.. I've managed to procrastinate for two hours about writing a poll script 03:45 < sneakerelph> i might get gmail! 03:46 < court_> what kind of poll script? 03:47 < davidc__> stupid thing for my brothers high school 03:47 < davidc__> aka just yes/no 03:48 < davidc__> with making sure IP's aren't reused. 03:48 < macPod> sneakerelph who are you on the list? 03:50 < sneakerelph> oh! guess who just got a gmail account? 03:50 < davidc__> you? 03:51 < sneakerelph> yes! 03:51 < sneakerelph> me! 03:51 < davidc__> cool 03:51 < davidc__> maybe I'll post 03:51 < sneakerelph> sneakerelph AT gmail.com 03:51 < davidc__> whaddidya offeR? 03:51 < sneakerelph> yea 03:51 < sneakerelph> thanks 03:52 < sneakerelph> post, you get like 5 views a second! 03:53 < macPod> yyea, isn't that crazy 03:55 < macPod> well it is 12 here 03:55 < macPod> goodnight all 03:56 < macPod> make sure davidc__ works. 03:56 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC93E1D5.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["http://vcl.ctrl-c.liu.se/"] 03:56 < court_> g'night 03:56 < court_> bah 03:57 < sneakerelph> yep 03:58 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-11-100.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:03 < sneakerelph> later 04:03 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC23033.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:25 < court_> what? davidc__ did you get a gotmail account out of that? 04:30 < davidc__> huh? 04:32 < court_> sorry.. iwas looking at your post programming time... 04:33 < court_> on gmailswap 04:46 < davidc__> think I did 04:46 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:21 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:09 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:09 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 06:49 -!- tam [~tam@linuxrulesthe.net] has joined #ipodlinux 06:49 < tam> do you have to install a new kernel to have ipod support? 06:50 < tam> or can you use it as a block device and send music to it that way? 07:50 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] --- Log closed Thu Jun 17 12:03:33 2004 --- Log opened Thu Jun 17 12:06:31 2004 12:06 -!- _ipodstats [dpalffy@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] --- Log closed Thu Jun 17 12:09:34 2004 --- Log opened Thu Jun 17 12:09:52 2004 12:09 -!- _ipodstats [dpalffy@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:23 -!- Efram [~root@h00095b09aae8.ne.client2.attbi.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:33 -!- jonny-_ [~jonnyh@158.38.93.12] has joined #ipodlinux 12:33 -!- jonny- [~jonnyh@158.38.93.12] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:47 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.108] has joined #ipodlinux 12:47 < WariniMAC> hi 12:47 < WariniMAC> :P 12:50 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.108] has quit [Client Quit] 12:55 -!- tlg [~tlg@226-215.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 13:09 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.108] has joined #ipodlinux 13:09 < WariniMAC> I have a question 13:10 < WariniMAC> WHERE ARE MY SONGS SAVED IN THE IPOD???????????? 13:18 -!- jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-19-71.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:23 < WariniMAC> Why mp3 doesn't play under linux I'm useng the latest podzilla beta 13:23 < _246tNt_> basically because it doesn't work yet 13:24 < WariniMAC> o ok 13:24 < WariniMAC> lol 13:24 < WariniMAC> have u tryed the "tetris" 13:25 < WariniMAC> ??????? 13:30 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-19-71.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 14:05 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC7A479.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:07 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC7A479.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Client Quit] 14:20 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:44 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.108] has quit ["Quit"] 14:47 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC9CF0FA.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 15:05 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC9CF0FA.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 18:29 -!- phyntos [hu@pD952CDA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:40 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-19-71.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:46 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has joined #ipodlinux 19:47 -!- tam [~tam@linuxrulesthe.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:52 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-19-71.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 19:59 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:09 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 -!- Tiesto [~Tiesto@CPE-138-130-34-93.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ipodlinux 21:33 * Tiesto hiya 21:40 -!- tlg [~tlg@226-215.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit ["Client exiting"] 21:51 -!- phyntos [hu@pD952CDA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:01 -!- Tiesto [~Tiesto@CPE-138-130-34-93.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:01 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 22:48 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC5C780.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:48 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC5C780.ipt.aol.com] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 22:49 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC5C780.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 22:49 < sneakerelph> im enjoying my new gmail1 22:59 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC5C780.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:12 -!- _246tNt_ [~tnt@21-101.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be] has quit ["Cyberbrain disconnected from the wired"] 23:17 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC5C780.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 23:17 < sneakerelph> hello9 23:17 < sneakerelph> blindspy, did you ever get a gmail? 23:18 < BlindSpy> i got a guy that said he would give it to me =) 23:18 < BlindSpy> haha quick huh? 23:19 < sneakerelph> sweet 23:19 < sneakerelph> i got one in 20 mins from posting on gmailswap 23:19 < BlindSpy> nice 23:19 < BlindSpy> apparently that is the only way to get them 23:19 < sneakerelph> yup 23:19 < sneakerelph> i guess so 23:19 < BlindSpy> i thought they gave them to you randomly tho your email 23:20 < sneakerelph> i think they give them to high profile tech people 23:20 < sneakerelph> kevin rose off screensavers 23:21 < sneakerelph> cmndertaco 23:21 < BlindSpy> yea i think so too 23:21 < sneakerelph> people like that 23:22 < sneakerelph> k im leaving 23:22 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC5C780.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:33 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 23:38 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 23:49 -!- court_ [~court@adsl-33-140-137.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:50 -!- court_ [~court@68.215.224.253] has joined #ipodlinux 00:53 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 00:58 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 01:11 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:12 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 01:15 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:18 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 01:32 -!- macPod [~One800jef@ACA5F73D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:35 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC78283.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:36 < sneakerelph> hey hey 01:36 < macPod> sup fat albert 01:37 < sneakerelph> right... 01:37 < macPod> How's that c programming coming? 01:38 < sneakerelph> well i've been at video school all day 01:38 < sneakerelph> so not much progress since yesterdasy 01:38 < macPod> ah 01:38 < sneakerelph> im gonna buy a book from barnes and noble on C 01:38 < macPod> If I were you, I would check your library first 01:38 < sneakerelph> ah, good idea 01:38 < macPod> yup 01:39 < court_> yup, yup 01:40 < sneakerelph> http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=ZYw1HUX6gT&isbn=0760755043&itm=2 01:40 < sneakerelph> how's that book look? 01:40 < sneakerelph> its cheap... 01:40 < sneakerelph> $10 01:40 < sneakerelph> reviews are good 01:40 < BlindSpy> macPod: i got a gmail account =) 01:40 < sneakerelph> awesome blindspy! 01:41 < BlindSpy> its fun 01:41 < sneakerelph> i got 2 invites :-) 01:41 < BlindSpy> me too =) 01:41 < sneakerelph> i gave one away to my friends 01:41 < sneakerelph> friend** 01:41 < BlindSpy> i have one to my friend too 01:41 < BlindSpy> i got one off #gentoo and the other off the website macPod gave me 01:41 < sneakerelph> somone email me! sneakerelph@gmail.com! 01:42 < macPod> BlindSpy woo! 01:42 < macPod> sneakerelph, I have never heard of the book. I still reccomend your library 01:42 < BlindSpy> check your mail sneakerelph 01:43 < BlindSpy> restartig X 01:43 < BlindSpy> brb 01:43 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 01:49 < court_> i still dont have a gmail acct :( 01:50 < macPod> Sorry court_, I would give you an invitation bt I have not gotten one yet... 01:51 < court_> its the thought that counts, almost ;) 01:51 < macPod> heh 01:51 < macPod> just do the gmailswap thing, seems to work the fastest 01:51 < court_> tried twice :( 01:52 < court_> i get another try in three hours... 01:53 * court_ leaves to go do the bidding of others 01:56 * court_ now realises that doesnt make any sense, but leaves anyway 01:57 < sneakerelph> just post to your message, it bumps it 01:58 < court_> i dont think it does... 01:59 < court_> maybe im wrong 01:59 < court_> k, i really need to leave now 01:59 < court_> bye 01:59 -!- court_ [~court@68.215.224.253] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:01 < sneakerelph> it does 02:01 < sneakerelph> just so everyone else knows 02:01 < sneakerelph> i bumped mine a couple times :-) 02:03 < sneakerelph> someone asked me today if i spoke a foreign language 02:03 < sneakerelph> i told them geek-speak 02:03 < sneakerelph> does that count? 02:07 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 02:11 < macPod> wb 02:12 < sneakerelph> ok, i dont get this 02:12 < sneakerelph> macpod, will ya help me out here? 02:12 < macPod> kk 02:12 < sneakerelph> main(){ 02:12 < sneakerelph> } 02:12 < sneakerelph> struct person { 02:12 < sneakerelph> int age; 02:12 < sneakerelph> } tyler; 02:13 < sneakerelph> tyler.age = 14; 02:13 < sneakerelph> printf ("Tyler is %d years old"), tyler.age; 02:13 < sneakerelph> return(0) 02:13 < sneakerelph> } 02:13 < sneakerelph> it wont compile 02:13 < sneakerelph> i bet i did something stupid 02:13 < sneakerelph> like forget a ; 02:13 < macPod> no 02:13 < macPod> you made a structure 02:13 < macPod> which is liek a variable 02:14 < sneakerelph> uh huh 02:14 < sneakerelph> go on 02:14 < macPod> so you now use person like you use the text in 02:14 < macPod> so... 02:14 < sneakerelph> come again? 02:14 < macPod> you gotta take the struct code out of the main function 02:14 < macPod> send me the code 02:14 < sneakerelph> oh 02:14 < sneakerelph> i see 02:15 < sneakerelph> how do i do that? 02:15 < macPod> so you would move the structure above the main function 02:15 < sneakerelph> oh 02:15 < sneakerelph> the { 02:15 < macPod> and then in the main fuction remove the tyler.age line 02:15 < sneakerelph> } 02:15 < macPod> yea 02:15 < macPod> int main () { 02:15 < macPod> } 02:16 < macPod> that is a function 02:16 < sneakerelph> and theres nothing in it 02:16 < sneakerelph> that confuses gcc 02:16 < sneakerelph> correct? 02:17 < macPod> right, you see the int that comes before main? 02:17 < sneakerelph> yep 02:17 < macPod> that means that function must return a value, and in this case, an int 02:17 < BlindSpy> sneakerelph: you never emailed me back 02:17 < BlindSpy> whats your gmail macPod? 02:17 < macPod> so you woudl need to put return 0; 02:17 < macPod> Omniwolf@ 02:17 < BlindSpy> k 02:18 < sneakerelph> at the end? 02:18 < macPod> hold on sneakerelph 02:21 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 02:27 < macPod> hey sneakerelph 02:27 < macPod> "P 02:52 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 03:11 -!- elinenbe [trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [" The IRC Client of the Gods! -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- HydraIRC"] 03:16 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 03:16 < macPod> time to go 03:16 < sneakerelph> ok 03:16 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 03:17 -!- macPod [~One800jef@ACA5F73D.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["http://vcl.ctrl-c.liu.se/"] 03:19 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC78283.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:21 -!- elinenbe [elinenbe_@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:38 -!- jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-2-202.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 03:55 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:59 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-19-71.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:10 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has quit [sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 06:12 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has joined #ipodlinux 06:16 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 07:00 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has quit [sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 07:03 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has joined #ipodlinux 07:11 -!- tlg [~tlg@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 09:30 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has quit [sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 09:34 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has joined #ipodlinux 10:10 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has quit ["*.net *.split"] 10:12 -!- tlg [~tlg@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:13 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has joined #ipodlinux 10:13 -!- tlg [~tlg@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 10:48 -!- expea [ben@milk.shake.org] has quit [sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 10:50 -!- expea [ben@milk.shake.org] has joined #ipodlinux 11:02 -!- expea [ben@milk.shake.org] has quit [sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 11:03 -!- expea [ben@milk.shake.org] has joined #ipodlinux 11:49 -!- tlg [~tlg@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:49 -!- tlg [~tlg@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 12:03 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has joined #ipodlinux 12:04 -!- phyntos [hu@pD952CDA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 12:30 -!- tlg [~tlg@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:04 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 13:51 -!- Uranus [Urinol@adsl-norte01-1-231.vianw.pt] has joined #ipodlinux 13:52 -!- Uranus [Urinol@adsl-norte01-1-231.vianw.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 14:11 -!- jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-2-202.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:22 -!- tlg [~tlg@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 14:32 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-2-202.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 14:36 -!- normalpe1son [normalpers@user-0can02j.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ipodlinux 14:37 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 14:37 -!- mode/#ipodlinux [+o davidc__ ] by ChanServ 14:37 < davidc__> 'lo all 14:37 -!- normalperson [normalpers@user-0can02j.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:41 < tlg> hi 14:43 < tlg> hmmm kernel panic again 14:43 < tlg> I have serious troubles with my hard drive 14:43 < tlg> on my laptop 14:43 < davidc__> ugh... what model? 14:43 < tlg> presario 2700 14:44 < davidc__> is it a hd problem? or a chipset problem? 14:44 < tlg> in a few seconds my computer will just restart 14:44 < tlg> probably hd 14:44 < davidc__> I was getting random kps under 2.4 14:44 < tlg> as it has been working fine for 2 years 14:44 < tlg> this is 2.6.7 14:44 < davidc__> works in 2.6... strange 14:44 < tlg> anyway 14:44 < tlg> I was trying to get faad to work on my iPod 14:44 < tlg> but it freezes it 14:44 < tlg> not sure why yet 14:45 < tlg> Buffer I/O error on device hda3, logical block 1851953 14:45 < tlg> end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 15410029 14:45 < tlg> Buffer I/O error on device hda3, logical block 1851953 14:45 < tlg> this is what my kerenel yells at me at the moment 14:45 < tlg> hmmm my drive is dead 14:45 < davidc__> oook 14:45 < davidc__> sounds like bad sectors to me 14:46 < davidc__> see if you can remap those not to be used. 14:46 < tlg> yes probably 14:46 < tlg> I'll have to do a depp check 14:46 < tlg> but I dont have my floppy with me .. 14:46 < tlg> I guess I can wait 14:46 < tlg> as long as xchat runs ;) 14:46 < davidc__> heh... I don't even have a floppy drive :p 14:47 < tlg> hmm I can't even reset my ide bus, as I can't read on the disk anymore 14:47 < tlg> damn 14:48 < davidc__> urk 14:49 < davidc__> thats not good 14:49 < davidc__> is the disk spinning up at all> 14:49 < tlg> I don't think it does 14:49 < tlg> hard to say though 14:49 < tlg> the fan is running 14:49 < tlg> so I can't really make the difference 14:50 < davidc__> urk... 14:50 < tlg> hmmm reiserfs is failing on it now ... 14:50 < tlg> lost page write due to I/O error on hda3 14:50 < tlg> REISERFS: panic (device hda3): journal-601, buffer write failed 14:50 < davidc__> my laptop was similarly dead yesterday.. just got a beep code on startup... turned out to be badly unseated ram.. but thats another story... 14:51 < davidc__> aw crap 14:51 < davidc__> write mounting it read only 14:51 < davidc__> back up everything you can 14:51 < davidc__> then bin it 14:51 < tlg> yeah I guess 14:51 < davidc__> *write try 14:51 < davidc__> dunno why I said write 14:52 < tlg> I'll try to reboot first 14:53 < tlg> then hmmm probably won't turn the computer on till I have a new drive 14:53 < tlg> argh 14:53 < tlg> anyway I've always wanted a bigger driver for this laptop 14:53 < davidc__> how big is the current one? 14:53 < tlg> I just had time to upload my uni project somewhere else ... so I guess I safe ;) 14:54 < tlg> 20Gb 14:54 < tlg> it is just not enough 14:54 < davidc__> ah.. man.. I'm struggling with 40 :p 14:54 < tlg> yeah 14:54 < tlg> 60Gb is a min 14:54 < davidc__> but then, I'm speaking as the guy who has more then half a tb in my server... 14:55 < davidc__> yeah, it is 14:55 < tlg> I have a roommate that has 1 tb 14:55 < davidc__> tis nice... 14:55 < tlg> 2 * 300Gb as firewire disks 14:55 < tlg> and the rest internal 14:55 < davidc__> heh, its all internal in that server 14:55 < tlg> yeah but I wouldn't want to loose 300Gb in one shot ;) 14:55 < davidc__> yea 14:56 < davidc__> tis a bitch to back up 14:56 < tlg> ok I better turn this thing of 14:56 < davidc__> alright 14:56 < tlg> before it gets worst 14:56 < tlg> cya 14:56 < davidc__> adios 15:07 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has quit [sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 15:14 -!- tlg [~tlg@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:18 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has joined #ipodlinux 15:24 -!- davidc__ [~davidc@S0106000094c68b3d.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:17 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has joined #ipodlinux 17:11 -!- normalpe1son is now known as normalperson 17:46 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:48 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:05 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has quit [sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 18:09 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has joined #ipodlinux 18:10 -!- phyntos [hu@pD952CDA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:45 -!- oxygen77 [~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ipodlinux ["Leaving"] 18:46 -!- der_dennis [~dennis@p508FF861.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 18:48 -!- der_dennis [~dennis@p508FF861.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ipodlinux [] 19:07 -!- tlg [~laurette@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 19:08 -!- tlg [~laurette@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has quit [Client Quit] 19:16 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9E097D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:55 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@adsl-64-175-244-240.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:57 -!- OoTLink [~OoTLink@adsl-64-175-244-240.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ipodlinux 19:58 -!- Uranus [Urinol@adsl-norte01-1-231.vianw.pt] has joined #ipodlinux 19:58 -!- Uranus [Urinol@adsl-norte01-1-231.vianw.pt] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 20:23 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9E097D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:01 -!- syfte [syfte@80.179.80.19.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 21:01 < syfte> hey , ne1 around ? 21:01 < syfte> i got this little prob ... 21:02 < syfte> i tried both the linux installation , and the windows installer 21:02 < syfte> but when linux it loading it always get to a certin point and than stops 21:02 < syfte> this is where is stops in both cases : 21:03 < syfte> leachbj Exp $ 21:19 -!- zwi [~zwi@ewa-denver.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:36 -!- syfte [syfte@80.179.80.19.forward.012.net.il] has quit [] 21:39 -!- syfte [~syfte@80.179.80.19.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 21:46 -!- syfte [~syfte@80.179.80.19.forward.012.net.il] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:54 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC0A6D1.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 21:57 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 21:59 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has joined #ipodlinux --- Log closed Fri Jun 18 22:08:22 2004 --- Log opened Fri Jun 18 22:09:30 2004 22:09 -!- _ipodstats [dpalffy@rainstorm.omikk.bme.hu] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:09 < sneakerelph> anyone here know c? 22:18 < normalperson> sneakerelph: sort of, at least I can fake it :) 22:19 < sneakerelph> it wont compile 22:20 < normalperson> your braces are completely mismatched 22:20 < sneakerelph> i see 22:20 < sneakerelph> that one was right in front of me 22:20 < sneakerelph> lol 22:20 < normalperson> if (statement) { } else { } 22:20 < sneakerelph> ok 22:21 < normalperson> and it's: int main() 22:21 < sneakerelph> doh! 22:21 < sneakerelph> those were easy ones 22:21 < sneakerelph> sometimes you just need another person to proofread though 22:22 < normalperson> :) 22:22 < sneakerelph> thanks 22:23 < sneakerelph> wait... sytax error before "return" 22:23 < sneakerelph> i still gots me some problems 22:23 < normalperson> sneakerelph: you need a } to match every { you have 22:25 < sneakerelph> is return supposed to be inside braces?> 22:25 < normalperson> sneakerelph: yes 23:36 < sneakerelph> anyone know where i can get the source code to podzilla? 00:56 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:59 -!- zwi [~zwi@216.88.131.43] has joined #ipodlinux 01:05 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 01:18 -!- macPod [~One800jef@ACAA4E03.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:50 -!- macPod [~One800jef@ACAA4E03.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["no dreams or fishes were harmed in the making of this movie"] 02:02 -!- syfte [~syfte@80.179.80.19.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ipodlinux 02:02 < syfte> anyone here ? 03:16 -!- macPod [~One800jef@ACAA4E03.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:16 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC0A6D1.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:19 < macPod> ooo ya 03:20 < syfte> here ? 03:20 < syfte> still ? 03:20 < macPod> nah, left, then came back 03:21 < syfte> i got a little question 03:22 < macPod> sure 03:22 < syfte> i installed linux on my pod , everything's cool 03:22 < macPod> excellent 03:22 < syfte> but there's a thread talking about changing the logo 03:22 < macPod> yup 03:22 < syfte> however it doesn't mention what size (in pixles) should the image be 03:23 < syfte> do oyu happen to know the dimenssions ? 03:23 < macPod> hmm, not sure about that, but I do know the dimensions of the scree 03:23 < macPod> n 03:23 < macPod> which should be the same 03:23 < macPod> lemme go get those 03:23 < syfte> oh, i think i could find those at apple's website .. in technical data 03:24 < macPod> yea 03:24 < syfte> dman .. i can be such an ass sometimes :) 03:24 < macPod> I'll say 03:24 < syfte> have you got addtional games/progs working ? 03:25 < macPod> I just graduated so I have been pretty busy 03:25 < macPod> not yet 03:25 < macPod> I will however 03:25 < macPod> I am laready working on a gui installer for os x 03:25 < macPod> Right after I finish this website 03:26 < syfte> cool .. ;D ... well i won't bother you anymore ... thanks for the tip 03:27 < macPod> hardly a tip 03:27 < macPod> and don'tworry about the website, I am procrastinating 03:27 < macPod> :P 03:31 < macPod> I need to grab the latest version of podzilla... 03:38 -!- jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-7-233.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 03:43 -!- court [~court@adsl-211-16-227.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:45 -!- KuRcZ [~na@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 03:45 < KuRcZ> hey guys 03:45 < KuRcZ> anyone here? 03:45 < syfte> yup 03:45 < KuRcZ> what's up? 03:45 < syfte> cool 03:46 < syfte> say how can i save the output of dmesg ? 03:46 < syfte> i know it's in /proc/kmsg ... 03:47 < syfte> and i tried the run dmesg and output it to a file : 03:47 < syfte> dmesg > /home/report 03:47 < syfte> but no luck ... any idea how could i get that information ? 03:47 < macPod> that won't work because sash does not support redirection :( 03:47 < KuRcZ> no clue 03:47 < macPod> I really need to find the minix source code 03:48 < syfte> so macPod , you're saying there's way i could know what's written there ? 03:49 < macPod> sorry not one that I can think of now 03:50 < syfte> did you compile the kernel you're slef or used a binary ? 03:50 < macPod> both :P 03:50 < macPod> I have a slow computer so, I use the binaries 03:52 < syfte> oh , okie 03:52 < macPod> ") 03:53 < syfte> one last thing , apple says the screen is 2inch (diagonally) 03:54 < syfte> i can't know from that the size in pixels , since i don't know the resolution 03:54 -!- court [~court@adsl-211-16-227.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:54 < macPod> the pixel thing is there 03:54 < macPod> lemme get it 03:54 < syfte> got it :) 03:54 < macPod> :P 03:55 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:55 * syfte thinks why he talks before he scrolls 03:56 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has joined #ipodlinux 03:59 -!- jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-2-202.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:01 < macPod> tiem for sleep, goodnight 04:01 -!- macPod [~One800jef@ACAA4E03.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["hexely!"] 04:02 -!- court [~court@adsl-211-5-242.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 04:08 < KuRcZ> hey guys 04:08 < KuRcZ> i just installed linux on my iPod 04:09 < KuRcZ> and i set apple to my default\ 04:09 < KuRcZ> how do i get linux on here? 04:10 < court> hold REW while booting up 04:11 < KuRcZ> rew? 04:11 < court> rewind, you know |<< 04:11 < KuRcZ> ohh 04:11 < KuRcZ> yea 04:11 < KuRcZ> i got it jsut before you said it 04:11 < KuRcZ> lol 04:12 < KuRcZ> how do i get it to reboot? 04:12 < court> hold play and menu down 04:12 < KuRcZ> i did 04:12 < KuRcZ> it jsut turns off 04:12 < KuRcZ> then back on 04:13 < court> thats it rebooting... 04:13 < KuRcZ> it doesnt work? :/ 04:14 < court> do you see tux when it boots up? 04:14 < KuRcZ> i just installed the iPodLinuxInst 04:14 < KuRcZ> i jsut get the menu 04:14 < syfte> podzilla ? 04:14 < court> eh? 04:15 < court> you used the windows installer? 04:15 < KuRcZ> yes 04:15 < court> do you see the apple after you reboot? 04:16 < KuRcZ> nope 04:16 < KuRcZ> do i have to reset it? 04:16 < court> yes 04:16 < KuRcZ> hold play/pasue AND menu?! 04:16 < court> yes 04:16 < KuRcZ> ahhhhhh 04:16 < KuRcZ> lmao 04:16 < KuRcZ> im an idiot 04:16 < court> and when it reboots.. hold down rewind as it boots up... 04:17 < KuRcZ> yup 04:17 < KuRcZ> i got it! 04:17 < KuRcZ> yay 04:17 < court> woo! 04:17 < KuRcZ> thanks guys 04:17 < KuRcZ> lol 04:17 < court> any time ;) 04:18 < KuRcZ> eh, i was looking at the forums, what programming language are they using to make the games and such? 04:18 < KuRcZ> cuz i wouldnt mind getting in on some of this 04:18 < KuRcZ> im new to a lot of this 04:18 < court> c 04:18 < KuRcZ> and im unstalling linux on my pc after exams are done 04:18 < KuRcZ> thats what i thought 04:19 < court> tell me what you think of othello... 04:19 < KuRcZ> its cool 04:19 < KuRcZ> its different 04:19 < KuRcZ> i like different 04:19 < court> heh 04:19 < KuRcZ> you make it? 04:19 < court> yup 04:19 < KuRcZ> nice 04:19 < KuRcZ> gj 04:19 < KuRcZ> i wish i had these skills 04:19 < court> thx 04:19 < KuRcZ> lol 04:20 < KuRcZ> uh oh 04:20 < KuRcZ> i went over settings and my iPod jsut crashed :/ 04:20 < court> hmm? 04:20 < court> how so? 04:20 < KuRcZ> it jsut froze 04:21 < KuRcZ> said it couldnt find sometihng 04:21 < KuRcZ> and its stuck 04:21 < court> err.. couldnt find podzilla.conf? 04:21 < syfte> how do i inject/comile the loader.bin so it'll have my logo(nicer tux) instead of the regular 04:21 < KuRcZ> no 04:21 < KuRcZ> i dont think it was that 04:22 < court> hmm.. 04:22 < syfte> court , it's ok it couldn't find mine either and it worked 04:22 < court> yea i was just checking... 04:22 < syfte> court does it hang after writing something like this : 04:23 < court> ??? 04:23 < court> im sorry? 04:23 < syfte> Mounted devfs on /dev 04:23 < syfte> Freeing init memory: 60K 04:23 < syfte> ipod_1394: $Id: tsb43aa82.c,v 1.5 2004/05/17 18:22:13 leachbj Exp $ 04:23 < court> ahh... 04:24 < syfte> KuRcZ, do you know how to do it ? 04:24 < court> im confused are you having that problem??? 04:24 < KuRcZ> no clue 04:24 < syfte> no , i'm asking if it's your problem 04:25 < court> i'm not having any problems... 04:25 < court> err.. 04:27 < KuRcZ> ahhh 04:27 < KuRcZ> court 04:28 < KuRcZ> your game owned me 04:28 < KuRcZ> 50 : 14 04:28 < KuRcZ> i got 14 04:28 < KuRcZ> lmao 04:28 < court> heh 04:28 < KuRcZ> its fun tho 04:28 < KuRcZ> im gunna learn this stuff this summer 04:28 < KuRcZ> for sure 04:30 < court> KuRcZ, to change your bootup picture you would need to modify make_fw 04:30 < KuRcZ> lol 04:31 < KuRcZ> who's the one who started pozilla? 04:31 < KuRcZ> alright 04:31 < KuRcZ> i like the penguin tho :D 04:31 < KuRcZ> lol 04:31 < court> leachbj 04:31 < KuRcZ> and anyone can submoit there work? 04:32 < court> sure... 04:32 < syfte> court you know how to do it (change the make_fw) .. i already made the image.c file in the proper format 04:32 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 04:33 < KuRcZ> i still goota learn how to use normal linux first :/ 04:33 < court> but its up to leachbj if he wants to add it to the "offical" project 04:34 < court> syfte, yup do you know how to use cvs? 04:34 < syfte> yeah .. the address is in the website ? 04:35 < court> the sf.net site 04:35 < KuRcZ> ohh 04:35 < KuRcZ> cool 04:35 < KuRcZ> makes sense 04:35 < KuRcZ> is he ever on here? 04:35 < court> yes whenever he has time... 04:36 < KuRcZ> cool 04:36 < court> its kinda early in germany though ;) 04:37 < KuRcZ> im in Canada 04:38 < KuRcZ> its 12:37am here 04:38 < court> 12:38 here ;) 04:38 < court> i was saying leachbj is probably asleep... 04:39 < court> syfte, did you find it? 04:40 < syfte> think so , but i might as well download the source i have to use the cvs ver right 04:41 < syfte> i'm afraid it'll be too unstable 04:41 < syfte> since all this stuff it totally experimental 04:41 < court> cvs doesnt always mean unstable silly 04:42 < court> just get ipodloader... it will not be unstable... 04:42 < syfte> i know ... i use fluxbox (and you know what's the stable version worth ) :) 04:45 < KuRcZ> is there anything else, that i should get on my iPod? 04:46 < court> yes,music... 04:46 < KuRcZ> lol 04:46 < KuRcZ> besides that 04:46 < KuRcZ> i have 1241 songs + 04:46 < KuRcZ> lol 04:46 < KuRcZ> i have a 3G 15gig iPod 04:46 < KuRcZ> what about you guys? 04:47 < court> well, just keep up with the project. new things come every few days 04:47 < KuRcZ> alright 04:47 < KuRcZ> cool 04:47 < KuRcZ> this summer 04:47 < court> 1g 5G :( 04:47 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 04:47 < KuRcZ> ill learn C and help out 04:47 < KuRcZ> i dont like the 1st and 2nd g's much 04:47 < KuRcZ> 3g looks better 04:48 < KuRcZ> jsut my opion tho 04:48 < KuRcZ> do you guys have linux on your pc's? 04:49 < syfte> i do 04:51 < KuRcZ> what distro you running? 04:51 < syfte> gentoo 1.4 04:51 < KuRcZ> that one looks cool 04:52 < court> yes, Debian/Slackware 04:53 < KuRcZ> im still unsure which distro i want to run 04:54 < syfte> court, i get this : make: arm-elf-as: Command not found 04:55 < syfte> KuRcZ, i switch a few before i found my spot ... it all depends what you're looking for in the system 04:55 < court> syfte, you dont have an arm cross-compilier? 04:56 < syfte> wait , i thought i only needed gcc 04:57 < court> hold on that doesnt seem right.. let me reboot into debian 04:57 < syfte> cool 05:01 < court> ok... you do need a cross-compilier for loader.bin 05:01 < court> if you want to send me the image.c i can try and compile it for you... 05:02 < syfte> k ... sec 05:07 < syfte> any developments ? 05:07 < court> in a sec... 05:08 < court> done 05:09 < syfte> cool 05:10 < syfte> thanks :) 05:10 < syfte> what was i missing ? 05:10 < court> a cross compilier... 05:11 < court> arm-elf-* 05:11 < court> i already had one set up 05:11 < syfte> can i get it from gnu org / 05:11 < syfte> ? 05:12 < court> you can from uclinux.org 05:13 < court> somewhere... 05:14 < syfte> k, i'm off to check it brb in 20 05:14 -!- syfte [~syfte@80.179.80.19.forward.012.net.il] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:19 -!- KuRcZ [~na@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:49 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9E097D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ipodlinux 09:14 -!- tlg [~laurette@95-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ipodlinux 13:03 -!- court_ [~court@adsl-19-46-177.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:05 -!- court [~court@adsl-211-5-242.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:31 -!- KuRcZ [~na@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ipodlinux 13:31 < KuRcZ> hey guys 13:32 < KuRcZ> anyone around? 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01:05 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC93793A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 01:30 < OoTLink> not a lot... 01:30 < OoTLink> heya macpod :) 01:30 < macPod> hey 01:33 < KuRcZ> hey guys 01:59 -!- court_ [~court@adsl-217-43-96.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ipodlinux 01:59 -!- court__ [~court@adsl-19-37-190.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:12 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC63D10.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 02:13 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has quit ["*.net *.split"] 02:13 < sneakerelph> hey macpod, my calculator does + - * and / 02:13 < sneakerelph> im so proud of myself 02:13 < sneakerelph> it took me awhile to figure out how to to decimals 02:13 < sneakerelph> instead of int 02:13 < sneakerelph> its float' 02:13 < sneakerelph> i got a book 02:14 < sneakerelph> sam's teach yourself C in 24 hours 02:14 -!- xzcvczx [~xzcvczx@xzcvczx.user.gentoo] has joined #ipodlinux 02:22 < macPod> woo 02:22 < macPod> I hope from the library 02:25 < sneakerelph> why? 02:25 < sneakerelph> the library didnt have any 02:25 < macPod> you would have spent money otherwise 02:25 < sneakerelph> its a crappy library 02:25 < sneakerelph> yea, but its good to keep around for reference 02:33 -!- macPod [~One800jef@AC93793A.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["in the next election you will be able to vote for a long face or a funny face."] 02:44 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC63D10.ipt.aol.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:26 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC63D10.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ipodlinux 03:26 < sneakerelph> yo 03:28 -!- sneakerelph [~sneakerel@ACC63D10.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Client Quit] 03:38 -!- jljes [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-4-99.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ipodlinux 03:39 -!- court_ [~court@adsl-217-43-96.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:46 < KuRcZ> hey 03:50 -!- court_ [~court@68.215.161.186] has joined #ipodlinux 04:00 -!- jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-103-1-7-233.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:16 -!- KuRcZ [~na@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:16 -!- KuRcZ [~na@d57-11-97.home.cgocable.net] has joined #iPodlinux 04:24 -!- court_ [~court@68.215.161.186] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 04:25 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.71] has joined #ipodlinux 04:25 < WariniMAC> HI 04:25 < WariniMAC> ANYONE THERE 04:26 < KuRcZ> me 04:26 < WariniMAC> hi dude 04:26 < KuRcZ> eh 04:26 < KuRcZ> what's up? 04:27 < WariniMAC> do u know what the linker_script_stuff.tgz is for 04:27 < KuRcZ> no clue 04:27 < KuRcZ> im new to this stuff 04:27 < WariniMAC> o ok 04:27 < KuRcZ> sorry, i couldnt be better help 04:27 < WariniMAC> mac? linux? or windows? 04:28 < KuRcZ> its linux 04:28 < WariniMAC> no wich operative system are u using on your comp 04:28 < KuRcZ> oh 04:28 < KuRcZ> currently windows 04:28 < KuRcZ> but i want linux, im gunna install linux on monday after my last exam 04:29 < WariniMAC> I'm on mac os x (UNIX similar to LINUX) 04:29 < KuRcZ> yea 04:29 < WariniMAC> do u like os x 04:30 < KuRcZ> never tried it 04:30 < WariniMAC> well is a nice op sys 04:30 < KuRcZ> looks cool 04:33 < WariniMAC> were u from 04:34 -!- court_ [~court@68.215.173.4] has joined #ipodlinux 04:34 < WariniMAC> hi court 04:35 < KuRcZ> Canada 04:35 < KuRcZ> you? 04:36 < WariniMAC> chile 04:37 < KuRcZ> cool 04:56 -!- WariniMAC [~Warini@200.72.201.71] has quit ["Quit"] 06:48 -!- tlg [~tlg@21-101.CampusNet.ucl.ac.be] has joined #ipodlinux 07:25 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has quit [Client Quit] 07:27 -!- BlindSpy [~blindspy@69.162.102.141] has joined #ipodlinux 10:49 -!- phyntos [hu@pD9E09263.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Connection reset by ping. 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